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Serialously with Annie Elise
341: The Real Story Behind Netflix’s Nathan Carman and The Family Murders

So what did he do?

Serialously with Annie Elise
341: The Real Story Behind Netflix’s Nathan Carman and The Family Murders

Well, he called in some backup.

Serialously with Annie Elise
341: The Real Story Behind Netflix’s Nathan Carman and The Family Murders

Now, like I mentioned earlier, he had a very close relationship with his mom's dad, so his grandfather, John.

Serialously with Annie Elise
341: The Real Story Behind Netflix’s Nathan Carman and The Family Murders

This guy was basically like the patriarch of the entire family.

Serialously with Annie Elise
341: The Real Story Behind Netflix’s Nathan Carman and The Family Murders

Now, John himself had four daughters, and they all had their own kids.

Serialously with Annie Elise
341: The Real Story Behind Netflix’s Nathan Carman and The Family Murders

So it wasn't like Nathan was the only grandchild or the only person he could focus on or anything like that.

Serialously with Annie Elise
341: The Real Story Behind Netflix’s Nathan Carman and The Family Murders

But there was definitely a soft spot in his heart for Nathan.

Serialously with Annie Elise
341: The Real Story Behind Netflix’s Nathan Carman and The Family Murders

Between his dad pretty much abandoning him and also knowing that Nathan had been bullied almost his entire life, plus the fact that he was the first male grandchild, their bond was just a little bit different.

Serialously with Annie Elise
341: The Real Story Behind Netflix’s Nathan Carman and The Family Murders

And everybody knew it.

Serialously with Annie Elise
341: The Real Story Behind Netflix’s Nathan Carman and The Family Murders

So when Nathan talked to John, pleading his case and begging for help, John agreed against Linda's wishes.

Serialously with Annie Elise
341: The Real Story Behind Netflix’s Nathan Carman and The Family Murders

And specifically what he did was he bought Nathan an RV.

Serialously with Annie Elise
341: The Real Story Behind Netflix’s Nathan Carman and The Family Murders

Then this RV was just parked right outside of Linda's house.

Serialously with Annie Elise
341: The Real Story Behind Netflix’s Nathan Carman and The Family Murders

And he did this so that Nathan could feel like he had some sort of freedom, like he lived alone, even though he was technically still on his mom's property.

Serialously with Annie Elise
341: The Real Story Behind Netflix’s Nathan Carman and The Family Murders

And eventually, his mom, Linda, came around to the idea.

Serialously with Annie Elise
341: The Real Story Behind Netflix’s Nathan Carman and The Family Murders

But Nathan's behavior only continued to get worse.

Serialously with Annie Elise
341: The Real Story Behind Netflix’s Nathan Carman and The Family Murders

Now, keep in mind, he was still in high school at this point, which what exactly was going on at school is sort of up in the air.

Serialously with Annie Elise
341: The Real Story Behind Netflix’s Nathan Carman and The Family Murders

One source stated that, quote, while Nathan's issues were initially deemed to be owing to his autism, his behavior in school didn't matter.

Serialously with Annie Elise
341: The Real Story Behind Netflix’s Nathan Carman and The Family Murders

any of his symptoms.

Serialously with Annie Elise
341: The Real Story Behind Netflix’s Nathan Carman and The Family Murders

So I don't know, I'm assuming that he definitely was acting out, but that it couldn't totally be attributed to his diagnosis.

Serialously with Annie Elise
341: The Real Story Behind Netflix’s Nathan Carman and The Family Murders

But whatever was going on got so bad that he was actually taken out of school.

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