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Serialously with Annie Elise
341: The Real Story Behind Netflix’s Nathan Carman and The Family Murders

The first theory that comes to mind in John's death is a robbery, which I'm sure that he would have had plenty of things of value in his home.

Serialously with Annie Elise
341: The Real Story Behind Netflix’s Nathan Carman and The Family Murders

But the thing was, there were no signs of forced entry and no signs of any kind of robbery.

Serialously with Annie Elise
341: The Real Story Behind Netflix’s Nathan Carman and The Family Murders

John's murder seemed like it had been more personal, more targeted.

Serialously with Annie Elise
341: The Real Story Behind Netflix’s Nathan Carman and The Family Murders

And John did have some secrets that he had been hiding that ended up coming to light after his death.

Serialously with Annie Elise
341: The Real Story Behind Netflix’s Nathan Carman and The Family Murders

Multiple sources came out saying that he had been having an affair with a woman who is referred to in the media as Mistress Y. She was one of the last people to speak with him before he was killed.

Serialously with Annie Elise
341: The Real Story Behind Netflix’s Nathan Carman and The Family Murders

And it's important to mention that John's wife had died from cancer a month before his death.

Serialously with Annie Elise
341: The Real Story Behind Netflix’s Nathan Carman and The Family Murders

So I'm not sure if the affair that he was having with Mistress Y began way before his wife's death or after making it, you know, not really an affair then.

Serialously with Annie Elise
341: The Real Story Behind Netflix’s Nathan Carman and The Family Murders

But either way, he did have a woman who he was seeing and was keeping a secret from his family.

Serialously with Annie Elise
341: The Real Story Behind Netflix’s Nathan Carman and The Family Murders

And this woman was technically the last person to have spoken with John, though it wasn't in person, just over the phone.

Serialously with Annie Elise
341: The Real Story Behind Netflix’s Nathan Carman and The Family Murders

Apparently, it was discovered that the weekend before John's murder, the two of them had gone on a private little getaway to the Mohegan Sun Casino.

Serialously with Annie Elise
341: The Real Story Behind Netflix’s Nathan Carman and The Family Murders

He gave her a little bit of cash to blow at the casino or, you know, just play around with and have almost like a sugar daddy situation.

Serialously with Annie Elise
341: The Real Story Behind Netflix’s Nathan Carman and The Family Murders

And I'm sure a lot of the money was simply just for spending time with him.

Serialously with Annie Elise
341: The Real Story Behind Netflix’s Nathan Carman and The Family Murders

I'm just going to call it what it was, maybe even to in exchange for companionship or whatever else, you know, rolls into that equation.

Serialously with Annie Elise
341: The Real Story Behind Netflix’s Nathan Carman and The Family Murders

But

Serialously with Annie Elise
341: The Real Story Behind Netflix’s Nathan Carman and The Family Murders

Nathan's lawyers would later argue that Mistress Y knew that John was loaded and that he would constantly just hand over money to her, which gave her plenty of motive to kill him, which sort of makes sense but also sort of doesn't.

Serialously with Annie Elise
341: The Real Story Behind Netflix’s Nathan Carman and The Family Murders

If she thinks that he's getting older and she's going to be in the will and she's going to get this huge inheritance, I get where that makes sense.

Serialously with Annie Elise
341: The Real Story Behind Netflix’s Nathan Carman and The Family Murders

But then if she's not in the will, you basically would be killing off your sugar daddy and all of your money privileges, which that doesn't make a whole lot of sense.

Serialously with Annie Elise
341: The Real Story Behind Netflix’s Nathan Carman and The Family Murders

I'm not sure where the motive is and how real that is, if I'm being honest.

Serialously with Annie Elise
341: The Real Story Behind Netflix’s Nathan Carman and The Family Murders

And a lot of people were confused about it, but personal opinions aside, the investigators cleared her pretty quickly.

Serialously with Annie Elise
341: The Real Story Behind Netflix’s Nathan Carman and The Family Murders

I'm not even sure, to be honest, what her alibi was.

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