Annie Elise

Every single detail.

So I'm excited that Amy is here to explain to all of us what is actually going on with the Anna Kempner case.

I know you hate cruises as it is.

This probably is one more reason to hate a cruise, but.

Not happening.

Not happening.

I'm like, wait a second.

Happy Thanksgiving to you.

I can't believe it's already almost Christmas.

It's interesting too, and I think you're right.

I think we will do a deep dive on this because I don't know, again, all of the nuances.

But from the things that I have seen, there's also a pretty interesting and alarming history with her mom.

And I saw something where her mom was like wearing a disguise to something.

I think it was like a court appearance or something like that.

To me, when I first heard about this, especially the bar hold against her and the –

I don't want to say outcries, but her boyfriend saying that she had had past situations with her stepbrother where he was like fixated on her and obsessed.

I was like, oh, this must have been a sexual assault that went too far.

But from everything I've seen, there was no indication that any sort of

sexual activity took place that night.

And so I don't know if it was, like, an attempt or not or if it was, like, to your point, something that just started to spiral.