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and that the grand jury is expected to decide whether murder charges should be filed.

Now, witness testimony has already begun, including people closely tied to David's professional circle.

Earlier this month, David's manager was also put on the stand to testify.

And he was later overheard saying that the prosecutor was, quote, very pushy as to why he didn't call the police, which, call the police about what?

We don't know, but it definitely sounds suspicious.

I have been saying from the beginning, I think that they may have enough evidence, or maybe there will be some sort of plea arrangement or something about the disposal of a body rather than murder charges.

And I know further testing is still being completed, but because of the state of Celeste's remains,

There's no cause of death or manner of death.

So reading between the lines with that, with what David's manager had said when he's like the prosecutor was pushy as to why he didn't call the police, it could be something easy as them saying, well, Celeste overdosed and then she died.

And then them being like, well, why didn't you call the police?

Why did you cover it up?

And being pushy on that rather than

witnessing or having knowledge of a murder.

So we'll see where it goes, but if the grand jury votes to file charges, the case would officially move into the criminal court system.

Many investigators and the prosecutor believe that David was involved, so it is very likely that he will face murder charges if the grand jury ends with indictments.

So as of the time of this recording, no movement on that, but we will see, and I will keep you updated.

Now let's move into this first case I wanna talk to you about because it's a case that has been sitting heavy with a lot of people, not because it's loud or graphic or instantly explosive, but because the more details that you learn, the more unsettling it becomes.

This is the case of Alicia Ann Seymour, a 35-year-old mother from Utah who is now accused of taking her four young children and leaving the country, all allegedly because she believed that the end times were approaching.

And look, I'm not going to throw any shade at Utah or anything like that.

I don't know if this is rooted in LDS.