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taken off the streets or anything like that, you don't want to be the one to go against your parents and be like, yeah, lock him up and throw away the key, which I know that there has been mention of the death penalty involved, but because California knew some past, I forget what it's called, a memo or whatever it's called, where basically it's like a stay.

We have, I think, 850 people on death row in California right now.

So I don't know that this would be a death penalty case, but it qualifies as one.

I don't know.

That would be, yeah, it would be a very difficult internal struggle.

I know.

I mean, the whole thing is sad all the way around and just, yeah, for all the warning signs.

But again, they're trying to respect the parents who are the ones ultimately making the biggest sacrifice for their son.

And so you support your friend.

Right.

I know.

Yeah.

Well, Anne, it's like all of these cases are, of course, awful because it happened right at the holidays.

And it's like they went to this Christmas party.

Now it's today.

It's Christmas.

The siblings are not having their parents there and they're dealing with this.

And it's like that will forever be etched in your mind as a memory every time Christmas comes.

Every year you're going to remember this horrific situation.

Mm-hmm.