Annie Elise

Forget it, okay?

But yeah, it is really sad because now it's like this poor girl and this guy.

And I wonder what he will tell the police.

Like, was the motive just to hurt her?

I mean, it makes sense.

And like, not to...

get too personal here but it reminds me of some stuff in our past with someone you had dated where it's like they could rather than hurting you get to the other people to hurt you at a deeper level because they know when you're like you care about your family the most yeah oh god it makes me sick it really does it's so thanks for bringing that up you're welcome perfect really dated some winners there amy just kidding just kidding

It's frustrating because I feel like we talk about it so often, restraining orders, protective orders, all of these things.

It doesn't really ever help you because if that person isn't scared of –

you know, being held accountable or being arrested, if their hate is more powerful than that, it's like it does nothing but potentially even further fuel them, which I would never suggest somebody doesn't go through the process of getting a restraining order.

Absolutely.

You want a documented trail.

You want to take whatever steps possible to protect yourselves.

But...

It's just sad because we hear about it where everybody's like, oh, not even surprised.

She was scared of him.

This was ongoing.

She went to court.

She had a million restraining orders against him.

He violated it.