Annie Farmer

It's really understanding that what's happened with these institutions that

It can be just as traumatizing, if not more traumatizing.

And so having those conversations, I think, amongst survivors, being able to draw on that and bring some of that information and normalize that, I think, has been very helpful.

I think that...

It's really important for people to understand that, you know, there is a difference between healing and justice in the sense of, you know, what can come from, you know, the government or from our justice system, right?

That really healing oftentimes is about finding your places where you feel safe.

And oftentimes that's in community with others.

And so knowing that...

There are people that want to support you if you've been through this.

Being able to name it and speak it and find your people is such an important step towards finding the healing that you deserve.

Thank you.

No, I think it sums it up well, especially the word outraged.

You know, I think that's really how so many of us are feeling right now is extremely angry that it's more of the same, that we have been, I think, more than patient waiting for the transparency that we've fought so hard to receive.

And again, there's information that we're not seeing that we know should be there.

And then information that very much shouldn't be released, like survivor names and identifying information that is once again,

being released.

Yeah, I mean, I think I would be specific.

I would ask her, you know, my sister, Maria Farmer, reported this in 1996, her own assault, what happened to me.

Why was more not done?

Why is there no evidence