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Annie Jacobsen

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3130 total appearances

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Lex Fridman Podcast
#420 – Annie Jacobsen: Nuclear War, CIA, KGB, Aliens, Area 51, Roswell & Secrecy

And then I know the way that military men think, and it's very different, right? So Putin's not a military person per se. He's an intelligence officer. So what would concern me there, if I had to guess about his mindset, has to do with paranoia, right? Most intelligence officers must have a degree of healthy paranoia or they're going to wind up dead, right?

Lex Fridman Podcast
#420 – Annie Jacobsen: Nuclear War, CIA, KGB, Aliens, Area 51, Roswell & Secrecy

And then I know the way that military men think, and it's very different, right? So Putin's not a military person per se. He's an intelligence officer. So what would concern me there, if I had to guess about his mindset, has to do with paranoia, right? Most intelligence officers must have a degree of healthy paranoia or they're going to wind up dead, right?

Lex Fridman Podcast
#420 – Annie Jacobsen: Nuclear War, CIA, KGB, Aliens, Area 51, Roswell & Secrecy

And so that's not a great quality to have.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#420 – Annie Jacobsen: Nuclear War, CIA, KGB, Aliens, Area 51, Roswell & Secrecy

And so that's not a great quality to have.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#420 – Annie Jacobsen: Nuclear War, CIA, KGB, Aliens, Area 51, Roswell & Secrecy

And so that's not a great quality to have.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#420 – Annie Jacobsen: Nuclear War, CIA, KGB, Aliens, Area 51, Roswell & Secrecy

And you'd be suspicious, and you can see that now. There's such an incredible distrust and sort of real conflict between Russia, between its leader, and NATO, between its leader and all of the West. And then that is fueled by his closest advisors.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#420 – Annie Jacobsen: Nuclear War, CIA, KGB, Aliens, Area 51, Roswell & Secrecy

And you'd be suspicious, and you can see that now. There's such an incredible distrust and sort of real conflict between Russia, between its leader, and NATO, between its leader and all of the West. And then that is fueled by his closest advisors.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#420 – Annie Jacobsen: Nuclear War, CIA, KGB, Aliens, Area 51, Roswell & Secrecy

And you'd be suspicious, and you can see that now. There's such an incredible distrust and sort of real conflict between Russia, between its leader, and NATO, between its leader and all of the West. And then that is fueled by his closest advisors.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#420 – Annie Jacobsen: Nuclear War, CIA, KGB, Aliens, Area 51, Roswell & Secrecy

They seem to be, from the statements they have made that I've read in translation, they seem to be fostering that same idea that NATO really has it in for Russia. America really has it in. And that is so dangerous and disheartening.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#420 – Annie Jacobsen: Nuclear War, CIA, KGB, Aliens, Area 51, Roswell & Secrecy

They seem to be, from the statements they have made that I've read in translation, they seem to be fostering that same idea that NATO really has it in for Russia. America really has it in. And that is so dangerous and disheartening.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#420 – Annie Jacobsen: Nuclear War, CIA, KGB, Aliens, Area 51, Roswell & Secrecy

They seem to be, from the statements they have made that I've read in translation, they seem to be fostering that same idea that NATO really has it in for Russia. America really has it in. And that is so dangerous and disheartening.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#420 – Annie Jacobsen: Nuclear War, CIA, KGB, Aliens, Area 51, Roswell & Secrecy

And or that the close advisors near the president would make that happen.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#420 – Annie Jacobsen: Nuclear War, CIA, KGB, Aliens, Area 51, Roswell & Secrecy

And or that the close advisors near the president would make that happen.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#420 – Annie Jacobsen: Nuclear War, CIA, KGB, Aliens, Area 51, Roswell & Secrecy

And or that the close advisors near the president would make that happen.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#420 – Annie Jacobsen: Nuclear War, CIA, KGB, Aliens, Area 51, Roswell & Secrecy

So to answer those questions, I interviewed a number of people, but most specifically General Tuhill, who was Obama's cyber chief. And he was actually America's first cyber chief. And the nuclear command and control system, and really the triad, functions on analog systems. It functions on old-school systems. If there's not digital interface, you can't hack into it, right?

Lex Fridman Podcast
#420 – Annie Jacobsen: Nuclear War, CIA, KGB, Aliens, Area 51, Roswell & Secrecy

So to answer those questions, I interviewed a number of people, but most specifically General Tuhill, who was Obama's cyber chief. And he was actually America's first cyber chief. And the nuclear command and control system, and really the triad, functions on analog systems. It functions on old-school systems. If there's not digital interface, you can't hack into it, right?

Lex Fridman Podcast
#420 – Annie Jacobsen: Nuclear War, CIA, KGB, Aliens, Area 51, Roswell & Secrecy

So to answer those questions, I interviewed a number of people, but most specifically General Tuhill, who was Obama's cyber chief. And he was actually America's first cyber chief. And the nuclear command and control system, and really the triad, functions on analog systems. It functions on old-school systems. If there's not digital interface, you can't hack into it, right?

Lex Fridman Podcast
#420 – Annie Jacobsen: Nuclear War, CIA, KGB, Aliens, Area 51, Roswell & Secrecy

So most of the issues that I raise in the book have to do with what happens to... cyber after a nuclear attack, right? What happens to cyber in the minutes after a bomb, a nuclear weapon strikes America, and how that impacts the ability for people to communicate with one another. And that's when chaos takes control.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#420 – Annie Jacobsen: Nuclear War, CIA, KGB, Aliens, Area 51, Roswell & Secrecy

So most of the issues that I raise in the book have to do with what happens to... cyber after a nuclear attack, right? What happens to cyber in the minutes after a bomb, a nuclear weapon strikes America, and how that impacts the ability for people to communicate with one another. And that's when chaos takes control.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#420 – Annie Jacobsen: Nuclear War, CIA, KGB, Aliens, Area 51, Roswell & Secrecy

So most of the issues that I raise in the book have to do with what happens to... cyber after a nuclear attack, right? What happens to cyber in the minutes after a bomb, a nuclear weapon strikes America, and how that impacts the ability for people to communicate with one another. And that's when chaos takes control.