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Annie Jacobsen

πŸ‘€ Speaker
3130 total appearances

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Lex Fridman Podcast
#420 – Annie Jacobsen: Nuclear War, CIA, KGB, Aliens, Area 51, Roswell & Secrecy

And they literally called, like they arranged, they didn't take the ox guard out for that one, but they got some lobsters from Massachusetts, like delivered to them in like record time. They didn't even need to put them on ice, you know? And again, those are these details where you're like, thank God, at least for me, thank God I got these details. These guys are all past now.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#420 – Annie Jacobsen: Nuclear War, CIA, KGB, Aliens, Area 51, Roswell & Secrecy

So I've interviewed hundreds of people.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#420 – Annie Jacobsen: Nuclear War, CIA, KGB, Aliens, Area 51, Roswell & Secrecy

So I've interviewed hundreds of people.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#420 – Annie Jacobsen: Nuclear War, CIA, KGB, Aliens, Area 51, Roswell & Secrecy

So I've interviewed hundreds of people.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#420 – Annie Jacobsen: Nuclear War, CIA, KGB, Aliens, Area 51, Roswell & Secrecy

Well, not just at Area 51, but in all the different national security and military intelligence and intelligence programs. And I personally have no reason to believe that aliens have ever visited Earth. That's just me personally.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#420 – Annie Jacobsen: Nuclear War, CIA, KGB, Aliens, Area 51, Roswell & Secrecy

Well, not just at Area 51, but in all the different national security and military intelligence and intelligence programs. And I personally have no reason to believe that aliens have ever visited Earth. That's just me personally.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#420 – Annie Jacobsen: Nuclear War, CIA, KGB, Aliens, Area 51, Roswell & Secrecy

Well, not just at Area 51, but in all the different national security and military intelligence and intelligence programs. And I personally have no reason to believe that aliens have ever visited Earth. That's just me personally.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#420 – Annie Jacobsen: Nuclear War, CIA, KGB, Aliens, Area 51, Roswell & Secrecy

I have no information that causes me to conclude that's the case. Now, with that said, many of the... primary players in this present day, you know, there are aliens among us narrative are in my phenomena book. I continue to communicate with a lot of these people. I'm talking about astrophysicists who fundamentally believe that there are aliens among us, right? So we beg to differ on that issue.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#420 – Annie Jacobsen: Nuclear War, CIA, KGB, Aliens, Area 51, Roswell & Secrecy

I have no information that causes me to conclude that's the case. Now, with that said, many of the... primary players in this present day, you know, there are aliens among us narrative are in my phenomena book. I continue to communicate with a lot of these people. I'm talking about astrophysicists who fundamentally believe that there are aliens among us, right? So we beg to differ on that issue.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#420 – Annie Jacobsen: Nuclear War, CIA, KGB, Aliens, Area 51, Roswell & Secrecy

I have no information that causes me to conclude that's the case. Now, with that said, many of the... primary players in this present day, you know, there are aliens among us narrative are in my phenomena book. I continue to communicate with a lot of these people. I'm talking about astrophysicists who fundamentally believe that there are aliens among us, right? So we beg to differ on that issue.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#420 – Annie Jacobsen: Nuclear War, CIA, KGB, Aliens, Area 51, Roswell & Secrecy

That is correct, and even perhaps more important, and perhaps this colors my thinking, but I am uniquely familiar with disinformation programs put forth by the CIA, or the agency as it's called by insiders, right? And I've learned firsthand about these programs, or rather learned from firsthand participants in strategic deception campaigns. that the CIA has engaged in, beginning with Area 51.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#420 – Annie Jacobsen: Nuclear War, CIA, KGB, Aliens, Area 51, Roswell & Secrecy

That is correct, and even perhaps more important, and perhaps this colors my thinking, but I am uniquely familiar with disinformation programs put forth by the CIA, or the agency as it's called by insiders, right? And I've learned firsthand about these programs, or rather learned from firsthand participants in strategic deception campaigns. that the CIA has engaged in, beginning with Area 51.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#420 – Annie Jacobsen: Nuclear War, CIA, KGB, Aliens, Area 51, Roswell & Secrecy

That is correct, and even perhaps more important, and perhaps this colors my thinking, but I am uniquely familiar with disinformation programs put forth by the CIA, or the agency as it's called by insiders, right? And I've learned firsthand about these programs, or rather learned from firsthand participants in strategic deception campaigns. that the CIA has engaged in, beginning with Area 51.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#420 – Annie Jacobsen: Nuclear War, CIA, KGB, Aliens, Area 51, Roswell & Secrecy

You know, the idea that all these reports of this U-2 spy plane, this giant long-winged aircraft flying 70,000 feet up, people didn't think airplanes could fly that high. And it's, you know, the sun shining off of it. It looked like a UFO and all the reports coming in.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#420 – Annie Jacobsen: Nuclear War, CIA, KGB, Aliens, Area 51, Roswell & Secrecy

You know, the idea that all these reports of this U-2 spy plane, this giant long-winged aircraft flying 70,000 feet up, people didn't think airplanes could fly that high. And it's, you know, the sun shining off of it. It looked like a UFO and all the reports coming in.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#420 – Annie Jacobsen: Nuclear War, CIA, KGB, Aliens, Area 51, Roswell & Secrecy

You know, the idea that all these reports of this U-2 spy plane, this giant long-winged aircraft flying 70,000 feet up, people didn't think airplanes could fly that high. And it's, you know, the sun shining off of it. It looked like a UFO and all the reports coming in.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#420 – Annie Jacobsen: Nuclear War, CIA, KGB, Aliens, Area 51, Roswell & Secrecy

And the CIA opened up a UFO disinformation campaign office headed by a guy named Toto Adorenko, you know, specifically for this reason. Now, does that mean that every UFO sighting in the world has been a U2? No. But I come from it from that lane of thinking. And there are so many strategic deception campaigns.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#420 – Annie Jacobsen: Nuclear War, CIA, KGB, Aliens, Area 51, Roswell & Secrecy

And the CIA opened up a UFO disinformation campaign office headed by a guy named Toto Adorenko, you know, specifically for this reason. Now, does that mean that every UFO sighting in the world has been a U2? No. But I come from it from that lane of thinking. And there are so many strategic deception campaigns.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#420 – Annie Jacobsen: Nuclear War, CIA, KGB, Aliens, Area 51, Roswell & Secrecy

And the CIA opened up a UFO disinformation campaign office headed by a guy named Toto Adorenko, you know, specifically for this reason. Now, does that mean that every UFO sighting in the world has been a U2? No. But I come from it from that lane of thinking. And there are so many strategic deception campaigns.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#420 – Annie Jacobsen: Nuclear War, CIA, KGB, Aliens, Area 51, Roswell & Secrecy

And as I look over the decades of how these same UFO stories, and again, this is just my opinion based on my reporting, this narrative that keeps reoccurring, it seems to me like a very large catch-all to keep the public's attention on that, not on that.