Annie Jacobsen

So a lot of people that are briefed on programs maybe aren't even aware of their position within a greater campaign. Or I'm wrong and there are aliens among us.

So a lot of people that are briefed on programs maybe aren't even aware of their position within a greater campaign. Or I'm wrong and there are aliens among us.

So a lot of people that are briefed on programs maybe aren't even aware of their position within a greater campaign. Or I'm wrong and there are aliens among us.

I can't imagine... that kind of exciting situation not becoming public information, right? And the counter to that is this, right? Which is, this is a very strong argument for why this is a big strategic deception campaign, right? Think about the Defense Department and the air, think about how jealously they guard its airspace, right?

I can't imagine... that kind of exciting situation not becoming public information, right? And the counter to that is this, right? Which is, this is a very strong argument for why this is a big strategic deception campaign, right? Think about the Defense Department and the air, think about how jealously they guard its airspace, right?

I can't imagine... that kind of exciting situation not becoming public information, right? And the counter to that is this, right? Which is, this is a very strong argument for why this is a big strategic deception campaign, right? Think about the Defense Department and the air, think about how jealously they guard its airspace, right?

I mean, you had a Chinese balloon flying over and the whole world went crazy, right? It was front page news. So the fact that one element or a couple people in the Defense Department have made this statement, we've lost control of our airspace over this UFO, alleged UFO craft that they can't explain. I don't buy that at all.

I mean, you had a Chinese balloon flying over and the whole world went crazy, right? It was front page news. So the fact that one element or a couple people in the Defense Department have made this statement, we've lost control of our airspace over this UFO, alleged UFO craft that they can't explain. I don't buy that at all.

I mean, you had a Chinese balloon flying over and the whole world went crazy, right? It was front page news. So the fact that one element or a couple people in the Defense Department have made this statement, we've lost control of our airspace over this UFO, alleged UFO craft that they can't explain. I don't buy that at all.

In my interviews with Jacques Vallée, who is the kind of... grandfather of all ufology. And he's such an interesting person and has such a really unique origin story about how he came into all of this. And he's such a scientist, right?

In my interviews with Jacques Vallée, who is the kind of... grandfather of all ufology. And he's such an interesting person and has such a really unique origin story about how he came into all of this. And he's such a scientist, right?

In my interviews with Jacques Vallée, who is the kind of... grandfather of all ufology. And he's such an interesting person and has such a really unique origin story about how he came into all of this. And he's such a scientist, right?

And he is profoundly dedicated to this issue and stands completely on the opposite end of the spectrum from me and knows a lot more and has studied this for decades more. But what he said to me is the most interesting thing, which is that It's not a military problem, it's an intelligence problem. Because Jacques believes that this is some kind of intelligence, right?

And he is profoundly dedicated to this issue and stands completely on the opposite end of the spectrum from me and knows a lot more and has studied this for decades more. But what he said to me is the most interesting thing, which is that It's not a military problem, it's an intelligence problem. Because Jacques believes that this is some kind of intelligence, right?

And he is profoundly dedicated to this issue and stands completely on the opposite end of the spectrum from me and knows a lot more and has studied this for decades more. But what he said to me is the most interesting thing, which is that It's not a military problem, it's an intelligence problem. Because Jacques believes that this is some kind of intelligence, right?

Which really, the closest I can do to wrapping my head around that takes me to consciousness, right? The idea of what is consciousness. And I think that's where it becomes very interesting. I think the government is hiding bodies and crafts is very Paul Benowitz. Read it. Google it and look into it, right?

Which really, the closest I can do to wrapping my head around that takes me to consciousness, right? The idea of what is consciousness. And I think that's where it becomes very interesting. I think the government is hiding bodies and crafts is very Paul Benowitz. Read it. Google it and look into it, right?

Which really, the closest I can do to wrapping my head around that takes me to consciousness, right? The idea of what is consciousness. And I think that's where it becomes very interesting. I think the government is hiding bodies and crafts is very Paul Benowitz. Read it. Google it and look into it, right?

Trivialization, that's a great word. Trivialization, that's, I agree with you.

Trivialization, that's a great word. Trivialization, that's, I agree with you.