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Annie Jacobsen

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3130 total appearances

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Lex Fridman Podcast
#420 – Annie Jacobsen: Nuclear War, CIA, KGB, Aliens, Area 51, Roswell & Secrecy

That's a really interesting question. I... I don't know. And here's why. It's because I've never interviewed any intelligence officer with those other agencies. Right? I've interviewed a couple people with Shin Bet in Israel. But... Until I speak to an actual source whose job it was, I don't know.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#420 – Annie Jacobsen: Nuclear War, CIA, KGB, Aliens, Area 51, Roswell & Secrecy

That's a really interesting question. I... I don't know. And here's why. It's because I've never interviewed any intelligence officer with those other agencies. Right? I've interviewed a couple people with Shin Bet in Israel. But... Until I speak to an actual source whose job it was, I don't know.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#420 – Annie Jacobsen: Nuclear War, CIA, KGB, Aliens, Area 51, Roswell & Secrecy

That's a really interesting question. I... I don't know. And here's why. It's because I've never interviewed any intelligence officer with those other agencies. Right? I've interviewed a couple people with Shin Bet in Israel. But... Until I speak to an actual source whose job it was, I don't know.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#420 – Annie Jacobsen: Nuclear War, CIA, KGB, Aliens, Area 51, Roswell & Secrecy

And so the information that I'm getting is based on perception of others, which one would think would be deeply clouded by the idea that America is the greatest. Right. Right. We're better than them, you know?

Lex Fridman Podcast
#420 – Annie Jacobsen: Nuclear War, CIA, KGB, Aliens, Area 51, Roswell & Secrecy

And so the information that I'm getting is based on perception of others, which one would think would be deeply clouded by the idea that America is the greatest. Right. Right. We're better than them, you know?

Lex Fridman Podcast
#420 – Annie Jacobsen: Nuclear War, CIA, KGB, Aliens, Area 51, Roswell & Secrecy

And so the information that I'm getting is based on perception of others, which one would think would be deeply clouded by the idea that America is the greatest. Right. Right. We're better than them, you know?

Lex Fridman Podcast
#420 – Annie Jacobsen: Nuclear War, CIA, KGB, Aliens, Area 51, Roswell & Secrecy

Well, that's just like multiple sourcing, right?

Lex Fridman Podcast
#420 – Annie Jacobsen: Nuclear War, CIA, KGB, Aliens, Area 51, Roswell & Secrecy

Well, that's just like multiple sourcing, right?

Lex Fridman Podcast
#420 – Annie Jacobsen: Nuclear War, CIA, KGB, Aliens, Area 51, Roswell & Secrecy

Well, that's just like multiple sourcing, right?

Lex Fridman Podcast
#420 – Annie Jacobsen: Nuclear War, CIA, KGB, Aliens, Area 51, Roswell & Secrecy

So you find the story out and then you have to, you go to the National Archives and you find the operation and then you learn all about this and then you interview other people who were there and you put the story together to the best of your ability and you make very specific choices with, you know, quote, so-and-so said, end quote, said so-and-so, right? Yeah.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#420 – Annie Jacobsen: Nuclear War, CIA, KGB, Aliens, Area 51, Roswell & Secrecy

So you find the story out and then you have to, you go to the National Archives and you find the operation and then you learn all about this and then you interview other people who were there and you put the story together to the best of your ability and you make very specific choices with, you know, quote, so-and-so said, end quote, said so-and-so, right? Yeah.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#420 – Annie Jacobsen: Nuclear War, CIA, KGB, Aliens, Area 51, Roswell & Secrecy

So you find the story out and then you have to, you go to the National Archives and you find the operation and then you learn all about this and then you interview other people who were there and you put the story together to the best of your ability and you make very specific choices with, you know, quote, so-and-so said, end quote, said so-and-so, right? Yeah.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#420 – Annie Jacobsen: Nuclear War, CIA, KGB, Aliens, Area 51, Roswell & Secrecy

And very rarely do I report on a single source, as I did in the end of Area 51. And then it says, essentially, look, dear reader, this is what the source told me. I have no way of corroborating it. This is legit. And here it is. So that's an area to make your reader comfortable with the information that they're being given.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#420 – Annie Jacobsen: Nuclear War, CIA, KGB, Aliens, Area 51, Roswell & Secrecy

And very rarely do I report on a single source, as I did in the end of Area 51. And then it says, essentially, look, dear reader, this is what the source told me. I have no way of corroborating it. This is legit. And here it is. So that's an area to make your reader comfortable with the information that they're being given.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#420 – Annie Jacobsen: Nuclear War, CIA, KGB, Aliens, Area 51, Roswell & Secrecy

And very rarely do I report on a single source, as I did in the end of Area 51. And then it says, essentially, look, dear reader, this is what the source told me. I have no way of corroborating it. This is legit. And here it is. So that's an area to make your reader comfortable with the information that they're being given.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#420 – Annie Jacobsen: Nuclear War, CIA, KGB, Aliens, Area 51, Roswell & Secrecy

And then in all of my books, whether there are three or 400 pages, there's always 100 pages of notes at the end. So you can see all the sourcing and you can begin to

Lex Fridman Podcast
#420 – Annie Jacobsen: Nuclear War, CIA, KGB, Aliens, Area 51, Roswell & Secrecy

And then in all of my books, whether there are three or 400 pages, there's always 100 pages of notes at the end. So you can see all the sourcing and you can begin to

Lex Fridman Podcast
#420 – Annie Jacobsen: Nuclear War, CIA, KGB, Aliens, Area 51, Roswell & Secrecy

And then in all of my books, whether there are three or 400 pages, there's always 100 pages of notes at the end. So you can see all the sourcing and you can begin to

Lex Fridman Podcast
#420 – Annie Jacobsen: Nuclear War, CIA, KGB, Aliens, Area 51, Roswell & Secrecy

get an understanding of how journalism in the national security world works, and also a great opportunity for me to say, I'm often standing on the shoulders of journalists before me who did an incredible job digging into something and being able to report what they knew. Often the books are 10, 20, 30 years old, and so much more has come to light since.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#420 – Annie Jacobsen: Nuclear War, CIA, KGB, Aliens, Area 51, Roswell & Secrecy

get an understanding of how journalism in the national security world works, and also a great opportunity for me to say, I'm often standing on the shoulders of journalists before me who did an incredible job digging into something and being able to report what they knew. Often the books are 10, 20, 30 years old, and so much more has come to light since.