Annie Jacobsen

And Chief Whalen, when I posed this question to him, he said to me, Annie, let me show you something. And he had Clearwater AI, the recognition software, on his phone. And this was still when it was like quasi not supposed to have to have that for law enforcement. And he said, I want you to go down the block and I want you to just turn the corner and come back toward me. Right. Which I did.

And Chief Whalen, when I posed this question to him, he said to me, Annie, let me show you something. And he had Clearwater AI, the recognition software, on his phone. And this was still when it was like quasi not supposed to have to have that for law enforcement. And he said, I want you to go down the block and I want you to just turn the corner and come back toward me. Right. Which I did.

And Chief Whalen, when I posed this question to him, he said to me, Annie, let me show you something. And he had Clearwater AI, the recognition software, on his phone. And this was still when it was like quasi not supposed to have to have that for law enforcement. And he said, I want you to go down the block and I want you to just turn the corner and come back toward me. Right. Which I did.

And he just didn't even hold up his phone. He just kind of looked like his hand. And his phone was on me. And he went back down. It was like tiniest movement. And when I came back to him, he went like this and he showed me. There I was. Everything about me. Everything about me, facts and figures and all images. And he knew who I was before I even got to him. So is that a good thing or a bad thing?

And he just didn't even hold up his phone. He just kind of looked like his hand. And his phone was on me. And he went back down. It was like tiniest movement. And when I came back to him, he went like this and he showed me. There I was. Everything about me. Everything about me, facts and figures and all images. And he knew who I was before I even got to him. So is that a good thing or a bad thing?

And he just didn't even hold up his phone. He just kind of looked like his hand. And his phone was on me. And he went back down. It was like tiniest movement. And when I came back to him, he went like this and he showed me. There I was. Everything about me. Everything about me, facts and figures and all images. And he knew who I was before I even got to him. So is that a good thing or a bad thing?

I mean, we could have another three-hour conversation about that alone.

I mean, we could have another three-hour conversation about that alone.

I mean, we could have another three-hour conversation about that alone.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah. During the war on terror, people were just like incensed to learn that there's a drone that's flying at something like 20,000 feet. It's called Argus is right. And it could, it can capture the, it's not a license plate. It's like, it can basically capture like what's written on a golf ball from 17,000 feet, 20,000 feet up. Okay. And people went crazy over this.

Yeah. During the war on terror, people were just like incensed to learn that there's a drone that's flying at something like 20,000 feet. It's called Argus is right. And it could, it can capture the, it's not a license plate. It's like, it can basically capture like what's written on a golf ball from 17,000 feet, 20,000 feet up. Okay. And people went crazy over this.

Yeah. During the war on terror, people were just like incensed to learn that there's a drone that's flying at something like 20,000 feet. It's called Argus is right. And it could, it can capture the, it's not a license plate. It's like, it can basically capture like what's written on a golf ball from 17,000 feet, 20,000 feet up. Okay. And people went crazy over this.

Like, Oh my God, it's big brother. Well, One of the lead engineers on that, Pat Bilken, is someone I talk to regularly because we talk about surveillance a lot because he thinks about it a lot because he has kids now.

Like, Oh my God, it's big brother. Well, One of the lead engineers on that, Pat Bilken, is someone I talk to regularly because we talk about surveillance a lot because he thinks about it a lot because he has kids now.

Like, Oh my God, it's big brother. Well, One of the lead engineers on that, Pat Bilken, is someone I talk to regularly because we talk about surveillance a lot because he thinks about it a lot because he has kids now.

And he has given so much thoughtful, you know, really thinks about this issue because he believes, just like you stated, that what we are turning over about ourselves actually exceeds anything that Argus is could do itself. from above because we're doing it willfully.

And he has given so much thoughtful, you know, really thinks about this issue because he believes, just like you stated, that what we are turning over about ourselves actually exceeds anything that Argus is could do itself. from above because we're doing it willfully.