Annie Jacobsen

like I would hope that people would be like, Hmm, maybe I can benefit from being a little less tribal.

Right.

And you can look back through the lens of history and maybe find errors, errors where, you know, the course needed to be corrected and where America has gone astray in its leadership.

And then how to get back toward, you know, uh,

a better way forward.

But with that said, and what we have been discussing is that you also have this situation whereby the world, all of us, all of us on this, the world is changing so rapidly because of the momentum of technology that everybody has to step up and recognize that decisions need to be made about the direction of some of these major national security issues.

You know,

in an expedited manner.

And that's the real problem with the Congress.

You have this old sort of lethargic can't get anything done.

And meanwhile, the world is moving forward at lightning speed.

And so then that gives the executive more power.

The president's lean on his ability to create executive orders and do what the perception of the White House needs to be done.

Well, the two differences right now between now and then, most particularly, which we've been discussing, have to do with speed of action, speed of participation and the degree of force involved, the degree of lethality.

Right.

And, you know, you see that right now inside America.

And that's that I couldn't agree with you more that the team jerseys need to come off because, you know,

The the danger of, you know, being blinded literally by wanting your team to win.

is profoundly undemocratic.

You would want to be curious and say, well, those guys are right about that, but I disagree with that.