Annie Jacobsen
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You know, Bill Perry had spoken of it. So I called up Obama's former FEMA director, Craig Fugate. And in our interviews, I asked him, you know, I just confirmed you guys prepare for nuclear war, correct? And he said, oh, yes, it is what is called a low probability, high consequence event. Wow. He said, we also prepare for asteroid strikes. Wow. Wow. Okay.
And then he told me a little bit about what's called population protection planning. The acronyms that you guys are so familiar with it. That's how FEMA prepares to help people in the event of an earthquake of, you know, a hurricane fire. And he said to me, Annie, in the event of a nuclear war, there will be no population protection planning because everyone will be dead.
And then he told me a little bit about what's called population protection planning. The acronyms that you guys are so familiar with it. That's how FEMA prepares to help people in the event of an earthquake of, you know, a hurricane fire. And he said to me, Annie, in the event of a nuclear war, there will be no population protection planning because everyone will be dead.
And then he told me a little bit about what's called population protection planning. The acronyms that you guys are so familiar with it. That's how FEMA prepares to help people in the event of an earthquake of, you know, a hurricane fire. And he said to me, Annie, in the event of a nuclear war, there will be no population protection planning because everyone will be dead.
Absolutely. And I hope I conveyed that to readers. And I think I might have, you know, given the readability of this book. And, OK, Sibbers is technologically astonishing. A satellite system one tenth of the way to the moon that can recognize hot rocket exhaust coming out of the back of an ICBM from a nuclear adversary in under a second.
Absolutely. And I hope I conveyed that to readers. And I think I might have, you know, given the readability of this book. And, OK, Sibbers is technologically astonishing. A satellite system one tenth of the way to the moon that can recognize hot rocket exhaust coming out of the back of an ICBM from a nuclear adversary in under a second.
Absolutely. And I hope I conveyed that to readers. And I think I might have, you know, given the readability of this book. And, OK, Sibbers is technologically astonishing. A satellite system one tenth of the way to the moon that can recognize hot rocket exhaust coming out of the back of an ICBM from a nuclear adversary in under a second.
So, yes, you know, America's technological capabilities are incredible. Much to be admired.
So, yes, you know, America's technological capabilities are incredible. Much to be admired.
So, yes, you know, America's technological capabilities are incredible. Much to be admired.
But on the flip side of that, you have the horror that the reason that Sibbers even exists is because an ICBM, that is for listeners, an intercontinental ballistic missile that can travel from one side of the earth to the other in approximately 30 minutes, 33 minutes precisely from a launch pad in Pyongyang. It cannot be redirected and it cannot be recalled.
But on the flip side of that, you have the horror that the reason that Sibbers even exists is because an ICBM, that is for listeners, an intercontinental ballistic missile that can travel from one side of the earth to the other in approximately 30 minutes, 33 minutes precisely from a launch pad in Pyongyang. It cannot be redirected and it cannot be recalled.
But on the flip side of that, you have the horror that the reason that Sibbers even exists is because an ICBM, that is for listeners, an intercontinental ballistic missile that can travel from one side of the earth to the other in approximately 30 minutes, 33 minutes precisely from a launch pad in Pyongyang. It cannot be redirected and it cannot be recalled.
I'm sure most listeners do not know that if they haven't read the book or it didn't work in your world because everyone tells me that, that I speak to, they come to book signings and whatnot. No one knows about, very few people know about sole presidential authority or launch on warning protocols.
I'm sure most listeners do not know that if they haven't read the book or it didn't work in your world because everyone tells me that, that I speak to, they come to book signings and whatnot. No one knows about, very few people know about sole presidential authority or launch on warning protocols.
I'm sure most listeners do not know that if they haven't read the book or it didn't work in your world because everyone tells me that, that I speak to, they come to book signings and whatnot. No one knows about, very few people know about sole presidential authority or launch on warning protocols.
Almost no one knows that Russia's technical system, which they allege is as good as Sibber's, is nowhere near the capacity. Their system that is in space can mistake clouds for a rocket launch. It's profoundly dangerous.
Almost no one knows that Russia's technical system, which they allege is as good as Sibber's, is nowhere near the capacity. Their system that is in space can mistake clouds for a rocket launch. It's profoundly dangerous.
Almost no one knows that Russia's technical system, which they allege is as good as Sibber's, is nowhere near the capacity. Their system that is in space can mistake clouds for a rocket launch. It's profoundly dangerous.
And then, of course, the ultimate danger, which was a fact so astonishing I had to actually confirm it with Leon Panetta because I simply couldn't believe this is true, that an ICBM, a U.S. ICBM launched from the Middle West to hit Pyongyang, which is what would happen if a bolt out of blue attack happened against the United States, a single weapon. if it was launched by North Korea.