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Well, a bunch of people were trying all these different things. Like they were trying to monetize it so you had to subscribe online or to access the content.

Well, a bunch of people were trying all these different things. Like they were trying to monetize it so you had to subscribe online or to access the content.

Well, a bunch of people were trying all these different things. Like they were trying to monetize it so you had to subscribe online or to access the content.

Doesn't work.

Doesn't work.

Doesn't work.

It works barely.

It works barely.

It works barely.

They have been diminished greatly by the lack of people wanting to buy paper newspapers.

They have been diminished greatly by the lack of people wanting to buy paper newspapers.

They have been diminished greatly by the lack of people wanting to buy paper newspapers.

It's been a big impact on them. It also changes the way they do journalism because now everything's very clickbaity, you know, which is a real problem as well.

It's been a big impact on them. It also changes the way they do journalism because now everything's very clickbaity, you know, which is a real problem as well.

It's been a big impact on them. It also changes the way they do journalism because now everything's very clickbaity, you know, which is a real problem as well.

Well, I lost 50% when I went over to Spotify.

Well, I lost 50% when I went over to Spotify.

Well, I lost 50% when I went over to Spotify.

Yeah, initially. Yeah, we lost like half. But we got it back pretty quickly.

Yeah, initially. Yeah, we lost like half. But we got it back pretty quickly.