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Great to see you too, Dan.

He owes me a lot of money, and he doesn't have any, so he's slowly paying off his debt to me by appearing in TV shows that I make. That's kind of true, by the way.

He owes me a lot of money, and he doesn't have any, so he's slowly paying off his debt to me by appearing in TV shows that I make. That's kind of true, by the way.

Oh yeah, almost two years, all told. I don't have nerves because I can't control it anymore. I have nerves while I'm making it and writing it and shooting it and editing it. But once it's over, it's sort of, I get into this kind of stoic place of like, well, it's out of my hands now, so...

Oh yeah, almost two years, all told. I don't have nerves because I can't control it anymore. I have nerves while I'm making it and writing it and shooting it and editing it. But once it's over, it's sort of, I get into this kind of stoic place of like, well, it's out of my hands now, so...

um you know you drop it and you see what happens it's also very different from the old system the old system was it was airing once a week and so you could track this sort of week to week are people sticking around are they did they drop out after the first episode are they are they still watching in the fourth episode now you just don't know it's a black box so you just kind of hope for the best and you get these little snapshots that say oh

um you know you drop it and you see what happens it's also very different from the old system the old system was it was airing once a week and so you could track this sort of week to week are people sticking around are they did they drop out after the first episode are they are they still watching in the fourth episode now you just don't know it's a black box so you just kind of hope for the best and you get these little snapshots that say oh

know it's number one in these countries or it's top 10 in these countries but it's hard to know how to interpret it and it's hard to understand what that really means so i just kind of throw up my hands and say like well i hope people like it and you know i guess so far so good is what we would say you know that we'll we'll know a lot more in about a month when they kind of come back to us with a full picture of how it's performing until then

know it's number one in these countries or it's top 10 in these countries but it's hard to know how to interpret it and it's hard to understand what that really means so i just kind of throw up my hands and say like well i hope people like it and you know i guess so far so good is what we would say you know that we'll we'll know a lot more in about a month when they kind of come back to us with a full picture of how it's performing until then

Mike, I guess it's... Sorry, I guess it's no different than like a movie that's like 90 minutes or two hours, right? But like, is it weird that you spend two years of your life working on this project and then like someone like me just sits down for three and a half hours and knocks it out and then I'm done with it?

Mike, I guess it's... Sorry, I guess it's no different than like a movie that's like 90 minutes or two hours, right? But like, is it weird that you spend two years of your life working on this project and then like someone like me just sits down for three and a half hours and knocks it out and then I'm done with it?

It is very much like a movie, which is obviously not how TV used to be. This is like, I had this thought at some point when I was finishing the last episode of like, been thinking about this and working on it for two years and when I'm done... someone will be able to watch the entirety of our work on one flight from L.A. to Chicago. And that is not what TV used to be.

It is very much like a movie, which is obviously not how TV used to be. This is like, I had this thought at some point when I was finishing the last episode of like, been thinking about this and working on it for two years and when I'm done... someone will be able to watch the entirety of our work on one flight from L.A. to Chicago. And that is not what TV used to be.

TV used to be this thing that slowly unfolded over, you know, 22, 24 weeks from September to May. And now it's everything is sort of being herded toward the movie model. And I I, you know, look, I'm it's amazing that we still get to do this.

TV used to be this thing that slowly unfolded over, you know, 22, 24 weeks from September to May. And now it's everything is sort of being herded toward the movie model. And I I, you know, look, I'm it's amazing that we still get to do this.

So I'm not complaining, but it's just an, it's the thing that TV used to have over movies was that you like watch characters slowly grow and change over months and months and months and years and years and years. It's sort of not like that anymore. And it a little bit bums me out.

So I'm not complaining, but it's just an, it's the thing that TV used to have over movies was that you like watch characters slowly grow and change over months and months and months and years and years and years. It's sort of not like that anymore. And it a little bit bums me out.

Like I feel like that was the advantage TV had over movies from a storytelling perspective and it's sort of disappearing. But again, you know, I'm not complaining. It's a great job. I'm happy I get to do it still.

Like I feel like that was the advantage TV had over movies from a storytelling perspective and it's sort of disappearing. But again, you know, I'm not complaining. It's a great job. I'm happy I get to do it still.

yeah that's the what the documentary is about which is you know was our north star when we were making it into a series it's about aging and and to some degree mortality and and memory problems and tricky adult relationships and stuff so yeah that's very explicitly the point of the documentary and i wanted to do it in part not just because the documentary is great you should all watch it if you haven't already it's called the mole agent that's from chile and it's great um