Anoushka Mutanda-Dougherty

There are 15 mentions of Neverland in the Epstein files.

Most mentions don't seem to be about Michael Jackson's ranch and instead the 2004 film Finding Neverland.

Epstein appears to ask for it on email at one point.

It's also worth noting the timeline.

Michael Jackson bought the ranch in 1988 and

Epstein purchased his private island in 1998, 10 years later.

So the idea that the ranch was created to rescue children from Epstein, which has been claimed online, doesn't fit chronologically.

Thank you so much for the question, Sarah, because I've seen that everywhere and I hope that answers some of those questions that you had.

That's it for this episode of Fame Under Fire from BBC Sounds with me, Anushka Matanda-Dowdy.

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Hello and welcome back to Fame Under Fire from BBC Sounds with me Anushka Mitanda-Doughty. As it's one of the biggest stories of our time, it's no surprise that we are picking up where we left off last week with the Epstein Files. To those of you who have texted in, who have said on social media questions about the Macron case, Blake Lively, we haven't forgotten. But the sheer amount of questions about Epstein means we're going to dedicate a whole episode to it.

Now, reminder, those files detail a huge investigation into the late Jeffrey Epstein, who sexually abused dozens of young women and girls. And of course the victims and survivors must remain at the center of all of this. Now we asked you, what questions do you have about the files that you're not seeing covered in the headlines? You sent them in, today I'm going to answer them. It's just...

Minä ja sinä. Siinä ei ole Sean, hän tekee sitä hallituksen asiaa, jota hän tekee hallituksessa. Mutta myöhemmin jatkan Ericka Fidaliä Bloom Law Firmista, ja hän sopii minua uusiin uudistuksiin ympäristöihin. Mutta ensin, me sopimme kaikkea kannabialaisuuden ja hankkeen tarkkauksista.

and conversations around babies. Is this all actually in there and what more do we know? This is a Jeffrey Epstein fact or fiction from Fame Under Fire, but three things before we start. First, a warning. Some listeners or viewers, if you're with us on YouTube, might find some of this content distressing. Second, as we heard last week, we have to remember that just because somebody's name is in the files, it's not an indication of any wrongdoing.

And lastly, you might hear me say this email appears to be from so-and-so, even though their name is actually in there. That's because they could come out and say, well, yeah, it's sent from my account, but I didn't actually write it. And sometimes we just don't know who it's from because it's redacted. And sometimes it's just not clear who sent it. But I'm going to jump straight in. I've got senior producer Jim in the gallery. Jim, what's the first question? Are the emails about torture true?

Kyllä, ja tiedän, millaisia e-mailia se tarkoittaa. Olen nähnyt niitä kaikkialla TikTokissa. Missä olet? Oletko hyvä? Haluaisin tortuusvideon. Se on e-maili, joka on lähettänyt joku, joka on kirjoitettu Jeffrey Epsteinille. Kyllä, ne ovat kirjoituksissa. Tämä on yksityiskohtainen. Tämä on e-maili Epsteinille, joka on kirjoitettu, joten emme tiedä, kuka se oli lähettänyt. Se oli lähettänyt 24.2.2009. Se sanoo, että, missä olet? Oletko hyvä? Haluaisin tortuusvideon.

That's EFTA00663685, if anybody wants to look on the DOJ website for themselves. Another one written by Epstein, we're not sure who to, again says, "...do you want me to try to do her... or just torture her?"

Nyt nämä e-mailit ovat siellä, näitä kuvauksia, joita olette nähneet sosiaalisessa mediassa, ovat todellisia. Mutta mitä me itse asiassa tiedämme tästä ulkopuolelta? Me emme voi nähdä, jos FBI on itse asiassa tutustunut hänet haasteeseen, jos he katsoivat nämä e-mailit ja löysivät, että se oli jotain väärää, tai jos jotain kriminaalia oli tapahtunut. Voimmeko me käsitellä mitään edellisestä edellisestä edellisestä edellisestä edellisestä edellisestä edellisestä edellisestä edellisestä?

Tarkoituksen todellisuuden onnistuminen ei ole yhdysvaltojen perusteella, joten se ei voida olla tarkoitettu tarkoituksen perusteella. Tarkoituksen voidaan ajatella erilaisilla onnistuilla. Tarkoituksen voidaan ajatella asuksiin, kuten rauhallisuudesta, rauhallisuudesta tai rauhallisuudesta, jotka voivat olla yhdysvaltojen perusteella. Tarkoituksen voidaan ajatella erilaisilla onnistuilla. Sen jälkeen on jotain muuta, joka voi tapahtua.

The prosecutor can include torture as an enhancement. We've spoken about that before on this podcast. It's basically where they say judge Mr. So-and-so is a sex trafficker, but the method through which he coerced his victims was torture. So therefore he should get even more time on added at sentencing.