Ansgar Dietrichs

So, you know, we'll focus on that.

And as of like, say, a year, year and a half, two years ago, I think,

the mindset on Ethereum has shifted a lot towards saying, look, we're now in this moment in time.

Real world adoption is here, right?

Like it's no longer this future thing that we're building towards.

So we have to like now, and it's actually, it's really, it's a very like non-trivial thing.

We have to find the right balance between still working on these like Manhattan projectile type jumps, like real time ZKVM.

I really, I think, I agree.

Like you said, like I think it's the biggest thing Ethereum probably will ever have done.

but we can't just wait for another three years for this to arrive.

Like we have to do things now.

And so this is why I think we actually like we're now scaling is this perfect example.

We have this really good hybrid approach.

The next, like we started last summer, we were saying ZKVM is three years out and we will in a second, I think talk about more of the sequencing of the exact law, but...

We don't want to wait three more years, right?

This is what the old Ethereum would have done.

What we're actually doing is we came up with this scaling plan and it's a very continuous smooth function.

So our goal is basically, we have this rule of thumb.

We're saying our goal is 3x scaling every single year.

So we are increasing the throughput of the Ethereum blockchain by roughly 3x every year.