Anthony Herron

The thought was, oh, he wants to spend another year with Ben Johnson at the house.

Oh, no.

He's like immediately.

I mean, was it three days?

Maybe four?

And he was back out in them streets and found someone else.

I think so.

Okay.

I'm pretty comfortable with that.

I had to think about it.

When he said it, I didn't say he's a surefire Hall of Famer, but now I'll think about it.

Your guy Stafford has played 17 years.

He's been All-Pro one time, and it was this year.

That's why when you say the Lamar Jackson, I'm sorry, when Grody said it, I had to really think about it, but you're probably right.

Stafford's only got two more Pro Bowl appearances than Shudder Sanders.

That's a great point.

Yeah.

No, no, I agree with your assessment of it, and I would say that's a healthy thing, because I think that's what works, is you meet the quarterback that you're coaching.

Yeah, that's my point, though, is I think they need to meet each other, and I think they both will be willing to because there's a reason a head coach just got fired, right?

There's a reason why you have not gotten as far as you want to go in your career in terms of making it to the Super Bowl for Lamar Jackson.