Anthony Herron

I thought it would be a little more shootout-y, if that's a word.

It's not.

I just made it up.

But it wasn't.

Shootout-ish?

Yeah.

Shootout-esque?

Yeah, shootout-esque.

Like, however you want to turn that into an adjective.

But I got to tell you, man, the decision before the game even started –

To move Joe Tooney out to left tackle for what it was designed to do, I think it worked because Caleb Williams, as you said, was not as uncomfortable as Matthew Stafford from a pressure situation.

It set them up to be able to pass the football.

The problem is I just don't think the run game was quite where Ben Johnson expected it to be based on the move.

Yeah, I agree with you, Ann, especially in the development, the growth over the course of the season.

I think in the playoffs, though, you've got to use those legs sometimes.

I really think almost to not a disadvantage, but I was surprised by how much the legs did not come into play.

As we talked to Anthony Heron, he's an analyst for 670 to Score and the Big Ten Network.

But I do agree with you overall.

Him meeting Ben Johnson where Ben Johnson wants him to meet him is right there, more of the pocket passer, less of just the off-platform stuff.

But I think that's what makes him special.