Anthony Kuhn

And as you can imagine, sexism had a lot to do with that. Denise Kaufman plays guitar for the Ace of Cups, and she said that even landing gigs could be a challenge. And she told me a story about trying to book a club in the 1960s in San Francisco.

And as you can imagine, sexism had a lot to do with that. Denise Kaufman plays guitar for the Ace of Cups, and she said that even landing gigs could be a challenge. And she told me a story about trying to book a club in the 1960s in San Francisco.

And as you can imagine, sexism had a lot to do with that. Denise Kaufman plays guitar for the Ace of Cups, and she said that even landing gigs could be a challenge. And she told me a story about trying to book a club in the 1960s in San Francisco.

So, well, they didn't play naked. But by 1972, the band was pretty much done. You know, some of the members started having kids. They found other work and eventually they went their separate ways. And their music was almost lost forever.

So, well, they didn't play naked. But by 1972, the band was pretty much done. You know, some of the members started having kids. They found other work and eventually they went their separate ways. And their music was almost lost forever.

So, well, they didn't play naked. But by 1972, the band was pretty much done. You know, some of the members started having kids. They found other work and eventually they went their separate ways. And their music was almost lost forever.

Well, decades after they first performed, a record producer heard them and was so impressed that he offered them a recording contract. So in 2018, more than 50 years after they first played together, the Ace of Cups finally released their first album. And when that album came out, they like to say on stage, we're in our 60s from the 60s.

Well, decades after they first performed, a record producer heard them and was so impressed that he offered them a recording contract. So in 2018, more than 50 years after they first played together, the Ace of Cups finally released their first album. And when that album came out, they like to say on stage, we're in our 60s from the 60s.

Well, decades after they first performed, a record producer heard them and was so impressed that he offered them a recording contract. So in 2018, more than 50 years after they first played together, the Ace of Cups finally released their first album. And when that album came out, they like to say on stage, we're in our 60s from the 60s.

Today, they're all in their 70s and have actually released two albums.

Today, they're all in their 70s and have actually released two albums.

Today, they're all in their 70s and have actually released two albums.

I love that. Keep hope alive. Aisha, thanks. It's been a real pleasure talking to you.

I love that. Keep hope alive. Aisha, thanks. It's been a real pleasure talking to you.

I love that. Keep hope alive. Aisha, thanks. It's been a real pleasure talking to you.

Hey, Leila.

Hey, Leila.

Hey, Leila.

Well, it's been freezing cold the whole time, I can tell you that. Protesters knew this arrest was coming, so many of them had been there before dawn. They were at Yun's residence, which is on a hillside next to a major street, and there were more than 3,000 police and anti-corruption investigators there to execute an arrest warrant, which is a lot more than their first try.

Well, it's been freezing cold the whole time, I can tell you that. Protesters knew this arrest was coming, so many of them had been there before dawn. They were at Yun's residence, which is on a hillside next to a major street, and there were more than 3,000 police and anti-corruption investigators there to execute an arrest warrant, which is a lot more than their first try.