Anthony Scaramucci

You know, Gates of Fire, I mentioned to you last time we were together, one of my old bosses, John Hurdle, U.S.

Marine, he gave me the book.

And then I learned from some of my friends at West Point that it's on the reading list for both all the people at West Point, but also the Joint Chiefs.

American service members have used your book

And it's more of a moral vocabulary for over two decades.

And I think you know that it should make you very proud of that.

Let's talk about the Arcadian.

How does it fit in?

What do you want readers of the Arcadian, the ones that are still in the fight, still fighting, Stephen, what do you want them to take from the book about laying down the sword?

I think that's the letters that Paul wrote about love of all things.

The most important is love.

And to truly love, you have to accept the human frailty and you have to accept human weakness.

And you can't be overly righteous about it.

And not only that, with others, but also with yourself.

With yourself, right?

You got to forgive yourself.

I mean, but Stephen, the work is heavily influenced by your philosophical view of life.

And so tell us a little bit about your, not only your writings, but your readings.

What are you reading?

You know, because Ryan Halliday, I listened to your interview with him on his podcast.