Anthony Scaramucci

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So, but, I mean, look, it's an amazing country.

So if you get the policies right and people get a good education, what can happen is they can lift themselves out of poverty, right?

Absolutely.

particularly Black and Latino New Yorkers have made, but then they get actively rolled back.

Is this a story about neglect, Heather, or is this a story about deliberate policy?

So Bernard Gaetz is still alive.

You decide not to interview him.

Yeah.

Tell us why you did that and why you went with more of the archival history of this as opposed to reaching out to him and seeing if he would be available for the book.

I feel like there's a large section of the media

That makes money off of the rage, breaks money off of the racism, makes money off of the split in the society and the demonization of players in the society.

And so go to the mid-1980s.

And set the scene for me in Rupert Murdoch's New York Post tabloid that he still owns.

Yeah.

Comes an American citizen actually to own all this stuff.

Right.

And he is promoting this and the impact that this is at.