Antonia Hitchens

No one had put to her for many years, except maybe the New York Times at one point briefly.

I think it actually was an experience she found to be generative and that, if anything, led her to think that perhaps there was some dignity and truth even in journalism coming from a very different tradition from journalism.

the one that she's created for herself.

You know, she would say to me often over the course of our time together, why is it when you do something, it's seen as kind of this public service exposing evil or truth?

And if I do it, it's seen as Laura Loomer's a national security threat.

And it was a tension in how she saw herself.

And I was never able to align with her version of what she saw herself to be doing.

But

I think when she was asked in a pretty deadpan way by fact checkers how she conducts her life, she felt that she was being given a very straight chance to explain what it is that she does.