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Antony Blinken

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506 total appearances

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The New Yorker Radio Hour
Antony Blinken’s Exit Interview

I've sat with the leader of Saudi Arabia, Mohammed bin Salman, on many occasions before and after October 7th. And before October 7th, having that credible pathway for a Palestinian state was important. But since then, since October 7th. the price has gone up and it's more than important.

The New Yorker Radio Hour
Antony Blinken’s Exit Interview

Meaning that I think for the Saudis, let me put it this way. On one of these occasions, when I was meeting with Mohamed Salman, he reminded me that about 70% of the Saudi population is younger than he is. And that's saying something because he's very young. And before October 7th, they were not focused on Palestine, on the cause of Palestinian self-determination.

The New Yorker Radio Hour
Antony Blinken’s Exit Interview

Meaning that I think for the Saudis, let me put it this way. On one of these occasions, when I was meeting with Mohamed Salman, he reminded me that about 70% of the Saudi population is younger than he is. And that's saying something because he's very young. And before October 7th, they were not focused on Palestine, on the cause of Palestinian self-determination.

The New Yorker Radio Hour
Antony Blinken’s Exit Interview

Meaning that I think for the Saudis, let me put it this way. On one of these occasions, when I was meeting with Mohamed Salman, he reminded me that about 70% of the Saudi population is younger than he is. And that's saying something because he's very young. And before October 7th, they were not focused on Palestine, on the cause of Palestinian self-determination.

The New Yorker Radio Hour
Antony Blinken’s Exit Interview

Since October 7th, they've been fixated on it. And in order for him to be able to proceed with normalization, it's very clear that he has to have at the least a credible pathway to a Palestinian state. And that I think is more deeply felt, more strongly felt now than it was before October 7th. But here's the thing that I think is why this question remains so important.

The New Yorker Radio Hour
Antony Blinken’s Exit Interview

Since October 7th, they've been fixated on it. And in order for him to be able to proceed with normalization, it's very clear that he has to have at the least a credible pathway to a Palestinian state. And that I think is more deeply felt, more strongly felt now than it was before October 7th. But here's the thing that I think is why this question remains so important.

The New Yorker Radio Hour
Antony Blinken’s Exit Interview

Since October 7th, they've been fixated on it. And in order for him to be able to proceed with normalization, it's very clear that he has to have at the least a credible pathway to a Palestinian state. And that I think is more deeply felt, more strongly felt now than it was before October 7th. But here's the thing that I think is why this question remains so important.

The New Yorker Radio Hour
Antony Blinken’s Exit Interview

First, I've also had many opportunities to meet with Prime Minister Netanyahu. And when the conversation comes to normalization with Saudi Arabia. That's the point at which he sits up, leans forward, leans in. he knows that for Israel, too, that would be an absolute game changer. Because think of it this way.

The New Yorker Radio Hour
Antony Blinken’s Exit Interview

First, I've also had many opportunities to meet with Prime Minister Netanyahu. And when the conversation comes to normalization with Saudi Arabia. That's the point at which he sits up, leans forward, leans in. he knows that for Israel, too, that would be an absolute game changer. Because think of it this way.

The New Yorker Radio Hour
Antony Blinken’s Exit Interview

First, I've also had many opportunities to meet with Prime Minister Netanyahu. And when the conversation comes to normalization with Saudi Arabia. That's the point at which he sits up, leans forward, leans in. he knows that for Israel, too, that would be an absolute game changer. Because think of it this way.

The New Yorker Radio Hour
Antony Blinken’s Exit Interview

The one thing that Israelis have wanted from day one of their founding, the one thing that they've sought the most, was to be treated like any other country, to have normal relations with Afghanistan.

The New Yorker Radio Hour
Antony Blinken’s Exit Interview

The one thing that Israelis have wanted from day one of their founding, the one thing that they've sought the most, was to be treated like any other country, to have normal relations with Afghanistan.

The New Yorker Radio Hour
Antony Blinken’s Exit Interview

The one thing that Israelis have wanted from day one of their founding, the one thing that they've sought the most, was to be treated like any other country, to have normal relations with Afghanistan.

The New Yorker Radio Hour
Antony Blinken’s Exit Interview

Well, it may well be, but the point is that to get there, to get to normalization, that road leads through a pathway for Palestine in the context of two states. So he, other Israelis, Israeli society will have to choose. They'll have to decide if that's the path that they're ready and willing and able to travel in order to get to normalization. We can't answer that question for them.

The New Yorker Radio Hour
Antony Blinken’s Exit Interview

Well, it may well be, but the point is that to get there, to get to normalization, that road leads through a pathway for Palestine in the context of two states. So he, other Israelis, Israeli society will have to choose. They'll have to decide if that's the path that they're ready and willing and able to travel in order to get to normalization. We can't answer that question for them.

The New Yorker Radio Hour
Antony Blinken’s Exit Interview

Well, it may well be, but the point is that to get there, to get to normalization, that road leads through a pathway for Palestine in the context of two states. So he, other Israelis, Israeli society will have to choose. They'll have to decide if that's the path that they're ready and willing and able to travel in order to get to normalization. We can't answer that question for them.

The New Yorker Radio Hour
Antony Blinken’s Exit Interview

One of the mistakes that I think people make is to ascribe to Prime Minister Netanyahu all of the policies and actions that Israel's taking that they don't like or beyond don't like, profoundly contest.

The New Yorker Radio Hour
Antony Blinken’s Exit Interview

One of the mistakes that I think people make is to ascribe to Prime Minister Netanyahu all of the policies and actions that Israel's taking that they don't like or beyond don't like, profoundly contest.

The New Yorker Radio Hour
Antony Blinken’s Exit Interview

One of the mistakes that I think people make is to ascribe to Prime Minister Netanyahu all of the policies and actions that Israel's taking that they don't like or beyond don't like, profoundly contest.

The New Yorker Radio Hour
Antony Blinken’s Exit Interview

And I say that because I think what we've seen in Israel since October 7th is a reflection not of an individual prime minister, not of individual members of his cabinet, but genuinely a reflection of 70%, 75%, 80% of Israeli society. The trauma, societal trauma, is reflected in its policies and support for those policies.