Antony Blinken

Well, but unfortunately, social media is what... Yeah, but social media, as we both know well, is so much of what drives conversations and drives perceptions.

Well, but unfortunately, social media is what... Yeah, but social media, as we both know well, is so much of what drives conversations and drives perceptions.

It's grown louder. I don't think it represents a majority, but it's certainly grown louder. And to your point, not just voices, but actions, including on the West Bank, more settlements, more legal outposts, more taking of land, more violence against Palestinians by extremist settlers than we've seen at any time in the recent past. But I think what's also evident is this. Start with Gaza.

It's grown louder. I don't think it represents a majority, but it's certainly grown louder. And to your point, not just voices, but actions, including on the West Bank, more settlements, more legal outposts, more taking of land, more violence against Palestinians by extremist settlers than we've seen at any time in the recent past. But I think what's also evident is this. Start with Gaza.

It's grown louder. I don't think it represents a majority, but it's certainly grown louder. And to your point, not just voices, but actions, including on the West Bank, more settlements, more legal outposts, more taking of land, more violence against Palestinians by extremist settlers than we've seen at any time in the recent past. But I think what's also evident is this. Start with Gaza.

Right now, Israel has accomplished what it sought to accomplish in trying to ensure that October 7th couldn't happen again. It has destroyed the military capacity of Hamas. And of course, it's dealt with the leaders who are responsible for October 7th. If it stays in Gaza, it's gonna get bogged down there. There is going to be an enduring insurgency.

Right now, Israel has accomplished what it sought to accomplish in trying to ensure that October 7th couldn't happen again. It has destroyed the military capacity of Hamas. And of course, it's dealt with the leaders who are responsible for October 7th. If it stays in Gaza, it's gonna get bogged down there. There is going to be an enduring insurgency.

Right now, Israel has accomplished what it sought to accomplish in trying to ensure that October 7th couldn't happen again. It has destroyed the military capacity of Hamas. And of course, it's dealt with the leaders who are responsible for October 7th. If it stays in Gaza, it's gonna get bogged down there. There is going to be an enduring insurgency.

By our assessment, Hamas has been able to recruit almost as many new militants as have been killed. And we see that every day in the north, where Israel has cleared an area, And then Hamas returns, Israel goes back. That is a recipe for perpetual war. It's a recipe for dealing with insurgency.

By our assessment, Hamas has been able to recruit almost as many new militants as have been killed. And we see that every day in the north, where Israel has cleared an area, And then Hamas returns, Israel goes back. That is a recipe for perpetual war. It's a recipe for dealing with insurgency.

By our assessment, Hamas has been able to recruit almost as many new militants as have been killed. And we see that every day in the north, where Israel has cleared an area, And then Hamas returns, Israel goes back. That is a recipe for perpetual war. It's a recipe for dealing with insurgency.

Look, in this moment, David, no one's ready for that conversation. I acknowledge it. But... It proceeds in steps. First step is getting an end to the conflict in Gaza. And again, as we speak, we're on the brink at least of getting an initial ceasefire. Then it's turning that ceasefire into something permanent.

Look, in this moment, David, no one's ready for that conversation. I acknowledge it. But... It proceeds in steps. First step is getting an end to the conflict in Gaza. And again, as we speak, we're on the brink at least of getting an initial ceasefire. Then it's turning that ceasefire into something permanent.

Look, in this moment, David, no one's ready for that conversation. I acknowledge it. But... It proceeds in steps. First step is getting an end to the conflict in Gaza. And again, as we speak, we're on the brink at least of getting an initial ceasefire. Then it's turning that ceasefire into something permanent.

And in order to do that, we have to have understandings, we have to have arrangements for what's going to fill into Gaza for security, for governance and administration, for reconstruction that is not Israel and not Hamas.

And in order to do that, we have to have understandings, we have to have arrangements for what's going to fill into Gaza for security, for governance and administration, for reconstruction that is not Israel and not Hamas.

And in order to do that, we have to have understandings, we have to have arrangements for what's going to fill into Gaza for security, for governance and administration, for reconstruction that is not Israel and not Hamas.

And we've done a lot of work on that over the last six months with Arab partners, with others, so that we can hand over a plan to the incoming administration, which it can use or not use, look at or not look at, to do that. But if we can get to that point where we have a permanent ceasefire, okay, Gaza is then settled down at... extraordinary, excruciating cost, but that's one piece.

And we've done a lot of work on that over the last six months with Arab partners, with others, so that we can hand over a plan to the incoming administration, which it can use or not use, look at or not look at, to do that. But if we can get to that point where we have a permanent ceasefire, okay, Gaza is then settled down at... extraordinary, excruciating cost, but that's one piece.

And we've done a lot of work on that over the last six months with Arab partners, with others, so that we can hand over a plan to the incoming administration, which it can use or not use, look at or not look at, to do that. But if we can get to that point where we have a permanent ceasefire, okay, Gaza is then settled down at... extraordinary, excruciating cost, but that's one piece.