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And we want to make sure that we are moving in all of our economic research and our global positions to avoid any such confrontation and for that question to even arise.

I mean, to me, this isn't just about a presidential election.

Personally, I think that the United States has an obligation to uphold its own laws, particularly the Leahy laws.

And I think that...

personally, that the idea of completely unconditional aid, no matter what one does, does not make sense.

I think it enabled a genocide in Gaza.

And I think that we have thousands of women and children dead that was completely avoidable.

And so I believe that

Enforcement of our own laws through the Leahy laws, which requires conditioning aid in any circumstance when you see gross human rights violations, is appropriate.

Oh, it's deeply, deeply disturbing that Pam Bondi had, and they had preserved essentially, as you mentioned, search histories of sitting members of Congress on the Epstein files.

They were looking at what members of Congress were looking at, and they were using that

importantly as ammunition against them, their own search histories against them in a hearing by Pam Bondi.

I think that the president has been acting in increasingly erratic ways.

I think it is.

really damning when we think about the degree to which mass media outlets reported on Joe Biden and yet, and you know, that resulted in the Democratic Party changing its nominee, et cetera, yet,

We are seeing behavior from Donald Trump that is increasingly erratic and alarming, and everyone's pretending that this is normal.

I don't really understand why that is.

It is very bizarre.

But then, importantly, I think that for our European partners and for our global partners,

I think what they also see is the result of not just one man, right, but also the entire government apparatus and a party that is willing to watch someone decompensate in front of the world and do nothing about it.