Aoife Clifford

was the vibrancy of it.

And that's Ian McGuire's writing, that the vibrancy of Manchester.

This is a book, and it's like Northwater, is you can almost smell it on the page.

And I was, I guess, I found parts of it because the two main characters were such cold people.

Like we were talking about Sarah Moss.

We were inside those characters' heads.

We totally understood them and knew everything about them.

These two characters really hold you at arm's length.

And I think that's deliberately from him.

For me, there's a bit of a nod to Chandler and it's sort of a Cormac McCarthy kind of feel of those characters that you're never going to really know these people.

They're little hard nuggets that you're never really going to crack.

So for me, the vibrancy came not just from the nephew, but all of the secondary characters, like people like Tommy O'Flanagan and

And the Fenians themselves, the variety in that group as well.

For me, that was a lot of the sort of heart and soul of the novel.

Yeah, brilliantly well.

It's so effective, especially like that rat match.

It's an amazing scene.

Tommy Flanagan and his dog, it's fantastically written and there's such a kind of life.

This is sort of the type of book that you plunge into rather than read.

It's like you're completely immersed in that world.