Apoorva Mandavilli

So when you damage public trust in vaccines, it's very easy to create those doubts and it takes forever to regain the trust.

So when you damage public trust in vaccines, it's very easy to create those doubts and it takes forever to regain the trust.

But now with COVID, we could be facing a more immediate problem because... Last week, I mean, forget about this recommendation about what's included in the immunization schedule. Last week, the FDA said that they may not even approve COVID vaccines at all for anybody who is not 65 plus or doesn't have some kind of underlying health condition.

But now with COVID, we could be facing a more immediate problem because... Last week, I mean, forget about this recommendation about what's included in the immunization schedule. Last week, the FDA said that they may not even approve COVID vaccines at all for anybody who is not 65 plus or doesn't have some kind of underlying health condition.

And so what that means is, it's not just a question of whether it'll be covered by insurance and whether it'll be easily available. If we had a new COVID variant come through that was... and we are actually hearing some rumblings from Asia that there's a worrisome new variant around, we would have entire populations of people who are not eligible for the vaccine at all.

And so what that means is, it's not just a question of whether it'll be covered by insurance and whether it'll be easily available. If we had a new COVID variant come through that was... and we are actually hearing some rumblings from Asia that there's a worrisome new variant around, we would have entire populations of people who are not eligible for the vaccine at all.

Yeah, that's the situation. And, you know, it's not as if people are clamoring to get the shots. I mean, the COVID shot that was offered last fall, only about 13% of kids got it and about 14% of pregnant women. But the difference is that the choice was there. If somebody felt like they needed the vaccine for whatever reason, they could go get it.

Yeah, that's the situation. And, you know, it's not as if people are clamoring to get the shots. I mean, the COVID shot that was offered last fall, only about 13% of kids got it and about 14% of pregnant women. But the difference is that the choice was there. If somebody felt like they needed the vaccine for whatever reason, they could go get it.

Again, other countries have stopped recommending kids get the COVID vaccine. But in those countries, the vaccine is still approved for kids. So if the situation were to change dramatically, they could still get it. What we're saying in this country is the kids shouldn't get it at all.

Again, other countries have stopped recommending kids get the COVID vaccine. But in those countries, the vaccine is still approved for kids. So if the situation were to change dramatically, they could still get it. What we're saying in this country is the kids shouldn't get it at all.

I think it's going to be very hard for them to argue that pregnant women who are at high risk of COVID are somehow better off or healthier for not getting a vaccine. I think there are more solid ground when it comes to kids, but still the implication does seem to be that the vaccine is somehow harming the health of these kids. And that's very much in keeping with what RFK Jr.

I think it's going to be very hard for them to argue that pregnant women who are at high risk of COVID are somehow better off or healthier for not getting a vaccine. I think there are more solid ground when it comes to kids, but still the implication does seem to be that the vaccine is somehow harming the health of these kids. And that's very much in keeping with what RFK Jr.

has been saying for a lot of different vaccines. He's falsely accused many vaccines of being unsafe and dangerous. And it does seem to portend more decisions along these lines that say it's healthier to not get vaccines than it is to get them.

has been saying for a lot of different vaccines. He's falsely accused many vaccines of being unsafe and dangerous. And it does seem to portend more decisions along these lines that say it's healthier to not get vaccines than it is to get them.

Thank you, Michael.

Thank you, Michael.

So Emily covers animals. And when you talked to her, the virus was really mainly a threat to animals and to wild birds. It was in birds all over the country. But since then, you know, it really started infecting a lot of different kinds of animals, actually, in a way that I've heard experts say they've never seen a virus do before. And then it also became quite clear that it is capable of

So Emily covers animals. And when you talked to her, the virus was really mainly a threat to animals and to wild birds. It was in birds all over the country. But since then, you know, it really started infecting a lot of different kinds of animals, actually, in a way that I've heard experts say they've never seen a virus do before. And then it also became quite clear that it is capable of

jumping into people and causing problems in people. In fact, at the time when you talked to Emily, there were probably only a couple of cases. Well, now we have 68. And we'll get to those 68 in a minute.

jumping into people and causing problems in people. In fact, at the time when you talked to Emily, there were probably only a couple of cases. Well, now we have 68. And we'll get to those 68 in a minute.