April (Caller)

So for the first time, I wrote down all my debts.

What kind of job, what kind of salary do I need in the civilian world?

I'm a single mom, so it was very important to me.

And at the first time, that's how much I realized I was in debt.

And I always wanted to get into criminal justice.

So I needed, obviously, a six-figure job.

And starting in criminal justice jobs wasn't that simple.

There killed two dreams.

And then I was worried that I might have to claim bankruptcy, which my parents claimed bankruptcy when I was growing up.

And I vowed to never do that.

And so I decided to do one of those debt consolidation things.

And then I was talking to a friend of mine from flight school who is an Apache pilot in Colorado named Lena.

And she was passed over as well.

And so we were kind of bonding over it, that we were getting out and we were getting stressed.

And she says, well, hey, I'm going to start doing this Day Ramsey plan.

I'm like, what is that?

So I looked you up online and saw you had books.

And I saw the website.

And I'm like, I'm not buying.

I'm not giving him my money right now.