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Ara Kharazian

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338 total appearances

Appearances Over Time

Podcast Appearances

The a16z Show
Why AI Isn’t Killing SaaS Yet

This is one of the most dynamic markets we've seen, particularly for buying software, where month over month you will see large incumbents be replaced by the newcomers.

The a16z Show
Why AI Isn’t Killing SaaS Yet

Anthropic just did that with OpenAI, now the most popular model used by businesses, according to Rampdata.

The a16z Show
Why AI Isn’t Killing SaaS Yet

Cursor did that with GitHub Copilot.

The a16z Show
Why AI Isn’t Killing SaaS Yet

My main take is that Setaspocalypse as a pronouncement has come way too soon and is typically not informed by actual business behavior.

The a16z Show
Why AI Isn’t Killing SaaS Yet

You're saying that Sasspocalypse is not in the data?

The a16z Show
Why AI Isn’t Killing SaaS Yet

I'd say quantitatively, neither aspect of Sasspocalypse is supported by actual business spend.

The a16z Show
Why AI Isn’t Killing SaaS Yet

Neither aspect as in it's going to change the way we buy it.

The a16z Show
Why AI Isn’t Killing SaaS Yet

Currently, it has not in any meaningful way, nor has it killed off at least the companies that are frequently mentioned.

The a16z Show
Why AI Isn’t Killing SaaS Yet

Yeah, I mean, I think that's what's so important about this kind of work is that, you know, we live in this world, particularly in tech specifically, where everyone wants to make these big pronouncements about where the market's going to go.

The a16z Show
Why AI Isn’t Killing SaaS Yet

Everyone seems like a pundit.

The a16z Show
Why AI Isn’t Killing SaaS Yet

No one's really armed with any data to inform them about what's actually happening in the market.

The a16z Show
Why AI Isn’t Killing SaaS Yet

So I have this unique job at Ramp where, you know, we see the spend data from 50,000 businesses, $100 billion of annual spend.

The a16z Show
Why AI Isn’t Killing SaaS Yet

And so we did set out to research what is actually happening in the market

The a16z Show
Why AI Isn’t Killing SaaS Yet

new ai companies are coming out with competitor products to a lot of prominent sas firms are we seeing any declines in the uh in adoption for those traditional sas companies are we seeing any changes in how people are buying sas and that's really where i defied sas apocalypse into two different categories right there's one that's hey are people shifting away from traditional sas over to um

The a16z Show
Why AI Isn’t Killing SaaS Yet

over to competitors provided by the model companies.

The a16z Show
Why AI Isn’t Killing SaaS Yet

And then number two is the way people are buying software changing or people shifting to a new model where you buy like agentic capabilities, where you buy tokens instead of paying a SaaS platform for your seats.

The a16z Show
Why AI Isn’t Killing SaaS Yet

And right now we see that neither of those trends are happening.

The a16z Show
Why AI Isn’t Killing SaaS Yet

It's not happening in any meaningful way.

The a16z Show
Why AI Isn’t Killing SaaS Yet

Seat-based contracts are still about 65%, 75% of spend.

The a16z Show
Why AI Isn’t Killing SaaS Yet

Flat platform fees about 20%, 30%.

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