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Ara Kharazian

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338 total appearances

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The a16z Show
Why AI Isn’t Killing SaaS Yet

makes money from a lot of stuff.

The a16z Show
Why AI Isn’t Killing SaaS Yet

They don't need you to spend money on tokens explicitly.

The a16z Show
Why AI Isn’t Killing SaaS Yet

Anthropic and OpenAI, 80% of their business revenue is token based.

The a16z Show
Why AI Isn’t Killing SaaS Yet

So it's directly tied to usage and incentivizing you to do that.

The a16z Show
Why AI Isn’t Killing SaaS Yet

Cursor will automatically, I mean, I think the model companies will have to respond to that kind of competitive pressure increasingly because, especially Anthropic, right, people are increasingly hitting these compute limits.

The a16z Show
Why AI Isn’t Killing SaaS Yet

Mm.

The a16z Show
Why AI Isn’t Killing SaaS Yet

And so it behooves them to make that change first so that at least more people can use it most effectively.

The a16z Show
Why AI Isn’t Killing SaaS Yet

They certainly have the demand for it.

The a16z Show
Why AI Isn’t Killing SaaS Yet

But I think it's going to come from whether the first step is going to be whether or not other firms that are in this space start offering it first and end up being that competitive pressure.

The a16z Show
Why AI Isn’t Killing SaaS Yet

And by the way, that's the bull case for something like Cursor, which can compete on the developer experience in that way, in a way that OpenAI and Anthropic, in the absence of Cursor, are not incentivized to do.

The a16z Show
Why AI Isn’t Killing SaaS Yet

They can offer a cheaper, more performant model or better routing as part of the product experience.

The a16z Show
Why AI Isn’t Killing SaaS Yet

Hey, all right.

The a16z Show
Why AI Isn’t Killing SaaS Yet

So in this great chart, you've got Anthropic now leading OpenAI, then Google, then XAI.

The a16z Show
Why AI Isn’t Killing SaaS Yet

Way, way, way at the bottom is the blue line.

The a16z Show
Why AI Isn’t Killing SaaS Yet

People can barely see it is DeepSeek.

The a16z Show
Why AI Isn’t Killing SaaS Yet

What happened, Ara?

The a16z Show
Why AI Isn’t Killing SaaS Yet

I thought, you know, five months ago, we were hearing about how 80% of venture capital backed tech startups were actually using DeepSeek because DeepSeek was so cheap.

The a16z Show
Why AI Isn’t Killing SaaS Yet

If that's the case, how come I can barely see this blue line on my chart?

The a16z Show
Why AI Isn’t Killing SaaS Yet

What's going on?

The a16z Show
Why AI Isn’t Killing SaaS Yet

I don't think 80% of venture-backed companies are using DeepSeek.