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Ari Daniel

๐Ÿ‘ค Speaker
675 total appearances

Appearances Over Time

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Could this vaccine trial mean a future without HIV?

That is correct.

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Could this vaccine trial mean a future without HIV?

Right here, Nate.

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Could this vaccine trial mean a future without HIV?

Inside a lab at the National Institute for Communicable Diseases in Johannesburg, South Africa.

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Could this vaccine trial mean a future without HIV?

It's arrayed with, if you can picture it, half a dozen large green and white freezers.

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Could this vaccine trial mean a future without HIV?

This is Penny Moore.

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Could this vaccine trial mean a future without HIV?

She's a virologist at the University of Wittwatersrand.

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Could this vaccine trial mean a future without HIV?

So Penny cracks open the lid of Bashful...

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Could this vaccine trial mean a future without HIV?

and pulls out a tower of frosty tubes.

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Could this vaccine trial mean a future without HIV?

These, Nate, are all the samples that have been donated to Penny and her team over and over again for two decades by the same group of 117 South African women.

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Could this vaccine trial mean a future without HIV?

That's right.

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Could this vaccine trial mean a future without HIV?

These samples have helped Penny and her team piece together a detailed portrait of the virus over the years, how it infects, how it hides, and how much it changes across different parts of the world, and even within a single individual.

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Could this vaccine trial mean a future without HIV?

This research has also helped fight other diseases, including COVID-19, RSV, and cancer.

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Could this vaccine trial mean a future without HIV?

And yet, despite all that, Nate, Penny actually spent much of last year worrying that it might all amount to nothing.

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Could this vaccine trial mean a future without HIV?

Why?

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Could this vaccine trial mean a future without HIV?

Well, because just when she and her colleagues were on the brink of an innovative HIV vaccine trial across Africa, the bottom dropped out.

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Could this vaccine trial mean a future without HIV?

Linda Gale Becker directs the Desmond Tutu Health Foundation in South Africa.

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Could this vaccine trial mean a future without HIV?

That's a vivid description.

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Could this vaccine trial mean a future without HIV?

But the team, they steeled their resolve.

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Could this vaccine trial mean a future without HIV?

They knew the science was sound and the need was urgent.

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Could this vaccine trial mean a future without HIV?

They insisted on finding a way forward.