Ari Emanuel

But he was sleeping there on two-hour sleep.

He needs that in his life, even though he hates it at times, because I remember him calling me, and he was so upset with Tesla, and what should he do with it?

And we would have conversations.

But he wills things with sheer brains and power and guts and endurance to make them, right?

And that's his superpower.

Because it gives, in a weird way, even though it's, I think, emotionally brutal on him, taking all the punches and feeling that, it also does give him a huge amount of energy and emotion satisfaction.

I don't believe in legacy.

You know, I don't believe that business people have legacies.

I think Elon will have a legacy.

I think Jeff Bezos will have a legacy.

I think Steve Jobs has a legacy.

Probably mostly it's presidents, leaders, maybe some actors.

But if you asked personal history, Lucille Ball...

You wouldn't know.

But I do think there's characteristics of those four people that are important to know about.

Like, how did they get there?

And are there patterns?

And as we just said, we just did a Rushmore on the 90s of music with Jimmy Iovine and Rick Rubin, who are two guys that should be as producers on Rushmore, in my opinion.

And Rick Rubin talks about how Eminem, he constantly writes his lyrics.

He's writing all the time.