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And a government lawyer said he didn't know whether anyone in government could say how many probationary workers had been fired. In this Venezuelan case, Trump invoked the Alien Enemies Act without providing the courts much time at all to stop these planes of migrants that were heading for El Salvador. How do behaviors, how do actions like that impact the judicial branch's ability to do its job?

And a government lawyer said he didn't know whether anyone in government could say how many probationary workers had been fired. In this Venezuelan case, Trump invoked the Alien Enemies Act without providing the courts much time at all to stop these planes of migrants that were heading for El Salvador. How do behaviors, how do actions like that impact the judicial branch's ability to do its job?

And a government lawyer said he didn't know whether anyone in government could say how many probationary workers had been fired. In this Venezuelan case, Trump invoked the Alien Enemies Act without providing the courts much time at all to stop these planes of migrants that were heading for El Salvador. How do behaviors, how do actions like that impact the judicial branch's ability to do its job?

And so if that's the case, do you think it's just a matter of time until all this gets sorted out and everyone is back in their proper lane?

And so if that's the case, do you think it's just a matter of time until all this gets sorted out and everyone is back in their proper lane?

And so if that's the case, do you think it's just a matter of time until all this gets sorted out and everyone is back in their proper lane?

If I could summarize your view as the clock ticks ever closer to midnight, but we aren't quite there yet, do you have a sense of how widespread that view is? Like, do your colleagues say you're being naively optimistic or Pollyanna-ish, or are your views pretty mainstream at this point?

If I could summarize your view as the clock ticks ever closer to midnight, but we aren't quite there yet, do you have a sense of how widespread that view is? Like, do your colleagues say you're being naively optimistic or Pollyanna-ish, or are your views pretty mainstream at this point?

If I could summarize your view as the clock ticks ever closer to midnight, but we aren't quite there yet, do you have a sense of how widespread that view is? Like, do your colleagues say you're being naively optimistic or Pollyanna-ish, or are your views pretty mainstream at this point?

Does the phrase constitutional crisis actually matter? I mean, if every constitutional law professor in the country were to say, yes, we are in a constitutional crisis right now, would that actually change anything?

Does the phrase constitutional crisis actually matter? I mean, if every constitutional law professor in the country were to say, yes, we are in a constitutional crisis right now, would that actually change anything?

Does the phrase constitutional crisis actually matter? I mean, if every constitutional law professor in the country were to say, yes, we are in a constitutional crisis right now, would that actually change anything?

Amanda Frost is a professor of law at the University of Virginia Law School. Thank you for talking with us once again. Thank you. This episode was produced by Connor Donovan. It was edited by Courtney Dorning and Nadia Lancey. Our executive producer is Sammy Yenigan. It's Consider This from NPR. I'm Ari Shapiro.

Amanda Frost is a professor of law at the University of Virginia Law School. Thank you for talking with us once again. Thank you. This episode was produced by Connor Donovan. It was edited by Courtney Dorning and Nadia Lancey. Our executive producer is Sammy Yenigan. It's Consider This from NPR. I'm Ari Shapiro.

Amanda Frost is a professor of law at the University of Virginia Law School. Thank you for talking with us once again. Thank you. This episode was produced by Connor Donovan. It was edited by Courtney Dorning and Nadia Lancey. Our executive producer is Sammy Yenigan. It's Consider This from NPR. I'm Ari Shapiro.

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