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jeopardize American sensitive data, or dismantle critical public services. They wrote, we will not lend our expertise to carry out or legitimize Doge's actions. On the platform X, Musk suggested that the staffers would have been fired had they not resigned.

jeopardize American sensitive data, or dismantle critical public services. They wrote, we will not lend our expertise to carry out or legitimize Doge's actions. On the platform X, Musk suggested that the staffers would have been fired had they not resigned.

And White House Press Secretary Caroline Leavitt responded to the mass resignation in a statement saying, quote, don't let the door kick you on the way out. Consider this. As Elon Musk and the Department of Government Efficiency work to remake the federal government, some of the people tasked with executing his vision have serious concerns about what the changes will do. From NPR, I'm Ari Shapiro.

And White House Press Secretary Caroline Leavitt responded to the mass resignation in a statement saying, quote, don't let the door kick you on the way out. Consider this. As Elon Musk and the Department of Government Efficiency work to remake the federal government, some of the people tasked with executing his vision have serious concerns about what the changes will do. From NPR, I'm Ari Shapiro.

And White House Press Secretary Caroline Leavitt responded to the mass resignation in a statement saying, quote, don't let the door kick you on the way out. Consider this. As Elon Musk and the Department of Government Efficiency work to remake the federal government, some of the people tasked with executing his vision have serious concerns about what the changes will do. From NPR, I'm Ari Shapiro.

It's Consider This from NPR. There was a time when federal government work was shorthand for a safe and predictable job. Not anymore. Today, federal government employees face drama, uncertainty, and conflict, coming largely from the Department of Government Efficiency, or DOGE. President Trump and Doge leader Elon Musk are trying to shrink the size and scope of the federal workforce.

It's Consider This from NPR. There was a time when federal government work was shorthand for a safe and predictable job. Not anymore. Today, federal government employees face drama, uncertainty, and conflict, coming largely from the Department of Government Efficiency, or DOGE. President Trump and Doge leader Elon Musk are trying to shrink the size and scope of the federal workforce.

It's Consider This from NPR. There was a time when federal government work was shorthand for a safe and predictable job. Not anymore. Today, federal government employees face drama, uncertainty, and conflict, coming largely from the Department of Government Efficiency, or DOGE. President Trump and Doge leader Elon Musk are trying to shrink the size and scope of the federal workforce.

And on Tuesday, 21 Doge employees resigned in protest, writing, We swore to serve the American people and uphold our oath to the Constitution across presidential administrations. However, it has become clear that we can no longer honor those commitments at the United States Doge Service. Well, our next guest is one of those people. DK told me everything changed the day after the inauguration.

And on Tuesday, 21 Doge employees resigned in protest, writing, We swore to serve the American people and uphold our oath to the Constitution across presidential administrations. However, it has become clear that we can no longer honor those commitments at the United States Doge Service. Well, our next guest is one of those people. DK told me everything changed the day after the inauguration.

And on Tuesday, 21 Doge employees resigned in protest, writing, We swore to serve the American people and uphold our oath to the Constitution across presidential administrations. However, it has become clear that we can no longer honor those commitments at the United States Doge Service. Well, our next guest is one of those people. DK told me everything changed the day after the inauguration.

Was it clear to you who was in charge?

Was it clear to you who was in charge?

Was it clear to you who was in charge?

So this resignation letter says people who arrived with Doge fired technical experts, mishandled sensitive data, and broke critical systems. Can you give us an example of an instance you saw that happen?

So this resignation letter says people who arrived with Doge fired technical experts, mishandled sensitive data, and broke critical systems. Can you give us an example of an instance you saw that happen?

So this resignation letter says people who arrived with Doge fired technical experts, mishandled sensitive data, and broke critical systems. Can you give us an example of an instance you saw that happen?

How would you respond to people who say, well, these are disaffected Democrats who are heading for the exits?

How would you respond to people who say, well, these are disaffected Democrats who are heading for the exits?

How would you respond to people who say, well, these are disaffected Democrats who are heading for the exits?