Ariel Ekblaw

Future-proof, yeah.

Yeah, so how do you prepare?

I think that's a great point.

Yeah, it's basically debated, thought about in the 80s, debated and then built in the 90s.

flown in the early 2000s.

So it's like a home that desperately needs a reno.

It's really old.

And what we're looking at now is what's the next opportunity to build modern technology into space architecture fundamentally for this next wave of commercial space stations that are going to replace the International Space Station when it does get decommissioned 2030, 2031.

Fiery death.

This is sizable.

Yes, and it's no small feat for NASA to be able to do that well.

I think there's a lot of orbital dynamics planning and reentry drag engineering planning.

Yeah, whether they burn up completely on reentry, whether they fully incinerate, or whether, for the case of the ISS, probably parts of it will end up being intentionally plopped in the ocean or somewhere if it's not fully burning up on reentry.

This is a very trenchant example because the Chinese did get in some trouble for Tiangong, one of their earliest space stations, for not deorbiting it properly.

So there's a lot of eyes on NASA.

I believe in NASA fully at the ability to do this, but there's a lot of eyes on NASA to make sure they do it well, do it safely.

You got problems, yeah.

Just don't hit Point Nemo, right?

Because on Point Nemo, the crazy thing.

What's Point Nemo?