Ariel Helwani

One fight, one hour.

They had Jon Jones and Brock Lesnar and Dana White on the desk with Kurt Menefee.

It was wild.

And...

After that, they would put the odd, they would put like a Demetrius Johnson flyweight fight or a Benson Henderson lightweight fight, but never names like this.

Never, ever.

I mean, Connor or John or Ron, like those types of names, no way.

So I'm curious, but yes, yeah.

I would agree.

In America, at least, if the Knicks were involved, I would say that the Knicks would win out.

ABC would win out.

I think we're going to go to PLEs.

No, I know.

Or you qualify the name.

It's done.

And how many boxing ones, like The Zone has said they're going to get out of the pay-per-view business.

Like there's a very good chance for at least the next seven years, the pay-per-view business is going to be

few and far between, which, look, the world has changed, streaming, all that stuff.

Even this ESPN Unlimited thing, there's still a cost attached to that if you want to get the WWE ones.

So, yes, but the notion of sitting down and having to pay $79.99, that could end.