Ariel Waldman

And so it really messes with your senses of what we consider fresh.

And it turns out like a lot of our concepts are based in being in like a lush earth environment.

You know, we do see microplastics.

I think the challenge always with microplastics is trying to discern, are they coming from us?

You know, did it literally come off my jacket yesterday because I'm there?

Or is it blown in from elsewhere?

So I think a lot of people, when they think of microplastics, they think, oh, it's so terrible.

We've polluted everything.

It's been blown onto here.

And that's certainly true probably for parts of it because we've been able to see that like ash from wildfire smoke ends up in Antarctica.

So we have proof that like

stuff in the atmosphere ends up in Antarctica.

At the same time, if you're not doing rigorous enough work, you might be saying, oh, look at this bad microplastic.

Well, it was from your jacket yesterday or something.

So to me, that's the challenge and sort of delight in microplastics is understanding their origin, because I think that really impacts how we think about microplastics is like, are we finding plastic in a lot of places because that's where people are going?

Or is it because it came from a whole another side of the world or not?

I mean, for me, it was certainly trying to decide, trying to film a docu-series by myself with no crew in freezing temperatures when I had never filmed a documentary before in my life.

That

That was the hardest because it is freezing.

Yeah.