Arlene Bynon

In a gesture of either giddiness that he'd pulled this off or to embarrass the police further, he provided details about one additional murder as a freebie.

In a gesture of either giddiness that he'd pulled this off or to embarrass the police further, he provided details about one additional murder as a freebie.

And we think we know why. The RCMP hoped the cash-for-bodies deal would be seen as something to be celebrated. In reality, the deal caused such outrage and damage that some in this country have never healed and never will.

And we think we know why. The RCMP hoped the cash-for-bodies deal would be seen as something to be celebrated. In reality, the deal caused such outrage and damage that some in this country have never healed and never will.

What kind of an explosion did it make, do you remember?

What kind of an explosion did it make, do you remember?

That's next time on Calls from a Killer. Calls from a Killer was written and produced by me, Arlene Bynum, Nathaniel Frum, and senior producers Ashley Mack and Andrew Friesen. Mixing and sound design by Evan Kelly. Emily Connell is our digital producer. Additional audio from BCTV. Executive producers are Cecil Fernandez and Chris Oak. Tanya Springer is the senior manager.

That's next time on Calls from a Killer. Calls from a Killer was written and produced by me, Arlene Bynum, Nathaniel Frum, and senior producers Ashley Mack and Andrew Friesen. Mixing and sound design by Evan Kelly. Emily Connell is our digital producer. Additional audio from BCTV. Executive producers are Cecil Fernandez and Chris Oak. Tanya Springer is the senior manager.

And Arif Noorani is the director of CBC Podcasts. Tune in next week for an all-new episode of Calls from a Killer from CBC's Uncover. Or you can binge the whole series by subscribing to our True Crime Premium channel on Apple Podcasts. Just click on the link in the show description.

And Arif Noorani is the director of CBC Podcasts. Tune in next week for an all-new episode of Calls from a Killer from CBC's Uncover. Or you can binge the whole series by subscribing to our True Crime Premium channel on Apple Podcasts. Just click on the link in the show description.

This is a CBC Podcast. I was a young journalist when Clifford Olsen first called me. I'm not doing this. Are you supposed to call the media?

This is a CBC Podcast. I was a young journalist when Clifford Olsen first called me. I'm not doing this. Are you supposed to call the media?

For more CBC Podcasts, go to cbc.ca slash podcasts.

For more CBC Podcasts, go to cbc.ca slash podcasts.

Yes. I was a young journalist when Clifford Olson first called me. I'm not doing this... Are you supposed to call the media?

Yes. I was a young journalist when Clifford Olson first called me. I'm not doing this... Are you supposed to call the media?

A reporter getting secret phone calls from Canada's most notorious serial killer. He was serving a life sentence for murdering 11 children. His oldest victim, 18. The youngest, 9. Captured only after the police offered him a shocking deal. Cash for bodies.

A reporter getting secret phone calls from Canada's most notorious serial killer. He was serving a life sentence for murdering 11 children. His oldest victim, 18. The youngest, 9. Captured only after the police offered him a shocking deal. Cash for bodies.

I was desperate to understand why he did what he did.

I was desperate to understand why he did what he did.