Armando Alcaraz

And when it breaks down into the metabolites, those metabolites can be found in the human body anyway.

So how could you go into a court of law and say, well, here we found these metabolites?

Well, the defense lawyers are going to go, well, and what does that mean?

They're normally found in a human body anyway.

But with Pavalon, there's no reason why a person should have that drug in their system unless they had a procedure or somebody injected them with it.

spike it, put the chemical in it, and then just allow it to putrefy.

And then you take it out and homogenize it.

You basically put it in a blender and make milkshake out of it.

Your face in this moment.

There's these two notorious chemicals, putrescine and cadaverine.

So just the names themselves kind of give you an indication of what it smells like.

Cadaverine?

Cadaverine and putrescine.

It's everything awful you could think of that's rotting.

That's what it smells like.

And so I have to tell you this story because I spoke to Brian and we would be working late at night, you know, trying to get these samples through.

And he would be blending these tissues up with the blender.

And even though we were doing all this in the chemical hoods, you could still smell that stuff.

And it would penetrate your clothes.

It would get into your clothes.