Arthur Allen

What's kind of ironic is that, you know, vaccine safety and vaccine skepticism really don't track together.

What's kind of ironic is that, you know, vaccine safety and vaccine skepticism really don't track together.

What's kind of ironic is that, you know, vaccine safety and vaccine skepticism really don't track together.

Thanks for having me, Hannah.

Thanks for having me, Hannah.

Thanks for having me, Hannah.

It certainly is. I mean, when I wrote my book and it came out in 2007, it was like there were two journalists interested in vaccines in any way. And, you know, the idea of the skeptics were just totally fringe. I mean, that's what everyone thought. And now here they are inside the castle.

It certainly is. I mean, when I wrote my book and it came out in 2007, it was like there were two journalists interested in vaccines in any way. And, you know, the idea of the skeptics were just totally fringe. I mean, that's what everyone thought. And now here they are inside the castle.

It certainly is. I mean, when I wrote my book and it came out in 2007, it was like there were two journalists interested in vaccines in any way. And, you know, the idea of the skeptics were just totally fringe. I mean, that's what everyone thought. And now here they are inside the castle.

Well, there are a lot of strands to skepticism about vaccines. The basic thing is that vaccines are given to healthy people, often to kids, and the whole idea of them is a little bit frightening. And when they succeed, nothing happens. And so, you know, there's very little kind of rah-rah for vaccines like in the Vox Pop because— Most people alive today haven't seen the worst of what they do.

Well, there are a lot of strands to skepticism about vaccines. The basic thing is that vaccines are given to healthy people, often to kids, and the whole idea of them is a little bit frightening. And when they succeed, nothing happens. And so, you know, there's very little kind of rah-rah for vaccines like in the Vox Pop because— Most people alive today haven't seen the worst of what they do.

Well, there are a lot of strands to skepticism about vaccines. The basic thing is that vaccines are given to healthy people, often to kids, and the whole idea of them is a little bit frightening. And when they succeed, nothing happens. And so, you know, there's very little kind of rah-rah for vaccines like in the Vox Pop because— Most people alive today haven't seen the worst of what they do.

So that, I mean, that's an important like condition because what happens is that, you know, there are people who just think that putting something in your body like this to prevent a disease goes against God or isn't natural or is, you know, a pharmaceutical plot. I mean, there's many different strands and they all kind of tend to come together and have at the moment.

So that, I mean, that's an important like condition because what happens is that, you know, there are people who just think that putting something in your body like this to prevent a disease goes against God or isn't natural or is, you know, a pharmaceutical plot. I mean, there's many different strands and they all kind of tend to come together and have at the moment.

So that, I mean, that's an important like condition because what happens is that, you know, there are people who just think that putting something in your body like this to prevent a disease goes against God or isn't natural or is, you know, a pharmaceutical plot. I mean, there's many different strands and they all kind of tend to come together and have at the moment.

If you go back far enough, I mean, the first inoculation in North America was in the 1720s. And it was considered, you know, they were trying to vaccinate against smallpox. And it was a dangerous procedure, but it was actually beneficial. And it was widely adopted for the next 80 years. But

If you go back far enough, I mean, the first inoculation in North America was in the 1720s. And it was considered, you know, they were trying to vaccinate against smallpox. And it was a dangerous procedure, but it was actually beneficial. And it was widely adopted for the next 80 years. But

If you go back far enough, I mean, the first inoculation in North America was in the 1720s. And it was considered, you know, they were trying to vaccinate against smallpox. And it was a dangerous procedure, but it was actually beneficial. And it was widely adopted for the next 80 years. But

At that time, you know, it was considered ungodly, like, you know, not that people would take the craziest medicines. This has always been true, that people will take any kind of crazy medication to treat an illness. But the idea that you would prevent something in the first instance was considered sort of to go against religion.

At that time, you know, it was considered ungodly, like, you know, not that people would take the craziest medicines. This has always been true, that people will take any kind of crazy medication to treat an illness. But the idea that you would prevent something in the first instance was considered sort of to go against religion.