Arthur Brooks

And that's what he wanted.

The post office is an expert career path.

But a lot of people, probably disproportionately a lot of the people who are watching this show are spirals for every seven to 12 years.

What they need is to take their career down to the studs and start again and take everything they learned in the last one and funge it into something that's meaningful in the next one, but have a new adventure.

The first turn is hardest, right?

For me, leaving the French horn and becoming a scientist, that was brutal.

Going back and getting a PhD when I didn't know what I was doing, it was really, really, really hard, right?

Second turn, easier.

Third turn, easier.

I'm on my fourth turn right now.

Who knows?

Maybe in 10 years, I'll be a circus clown or firefighter or something.

But the whole point is that that's what it means to live an entrepreneurial life where you're pursuing your calling because you have the agility and the courage to be an entrepreneur in the enterprise and the business of life.

What about the role of beauty?

Physical beauty?

Any kind of beauty.

Beauty is a transcendent experience.

So

One of the things that a lot of people have observed about the modern technocratic life is it's not beautiful.

It's bereft of beauty.