Arthur Brooks

And so when I'm anxious and bored, I drink.

Well, that makes boredom and anxiety worse the next day.

And so I drink some more and then down and down and down and down it goes.

And so what you have to, you're in a doom loop.

Any addictive process is a doom loop.

The same thing is true with the way that we use technology.

The same way is true of anything.

Yeah.

I can put away a half rack at 14.

I don't know.

You know what I mean?

I know.

And there are other, by the way, there's a whole spectrum of these things, of these dependencies that are all involving the, the, you know, the dopamine cycle in your brain.

Some of which are not just sort of neutral and hidden like the phone.

Some of which are, are, are applauded.

You know, if you're a workaholic, nobody will say, I mean, if like, if you're a pathetic alcoholic, nobody will say, it's like, Chris, you were off.

You drank.

You know, you drank 750 milliliters of gin last night.

I saw you put that, congratulations, you're excellent.

They're going to say, you got some problems.