Arthur C. Brooks

And that's, I mean, you study hormonal changes, for example, when people are experiencing intense hormonal change, it feels really vulnerable.

It feels really scary.

It's really, really uncomfortable, but that's when people lean into it, they get their most personal growth for a particular reason.

And so when you start to feel yourself going into a period of tremendous change, biological change, psychological change, that's when you say, aha, I'm getting a signal from the heavens that it's time to learn something new to grow as a person.

Totally, totally.

There's a lot of different kinds of transitions like that.

Transitions between careers, transitions between marriages.

Yes.

Transitions in your biology, just like you talk about an awful lot in your work.

These are the magic times in life.

They're the most uncomfortable for a reason.

For a reason.

Yeah, for sure.

I help people get through that.

I help people retire.

I help people when they're thinking about how is it possible to love again?

And I'm so interested in that because that's when you find that people become a new sort of person and a better sort of person as well, but not if they fight it.

Well, I've done a lot of different things in my own career, as a matter of fact.

I started off as a classical musician, as a matter of fact.

All the way through my 20s, I was a professional French horn player.