Arthur C. Brooks

You can get into a doom loop with booze.

You can get into a doom loop with gambling, with lots and lots of things in life where it helps you a little and then it hurts you a lot and it creates the problem it's supposed to solve and so you do it more.

That's how doom loops work.

And the same thing is true with technology.

It does, and it's even better because the number one New York Times bestselling book was co-written with you.

It's some nerve, I know, I know.

I tried to avoid it for the longest time.

I mean, it was on my mind, it was on my heart.

I thought, I'm not a philosopher.

But then I started seeing the science.

And once one plus one equaled two and started to add up with respect to what was actually happening in our society, I started to understand it better.

That's when the book actually came out.

But I've been working on this for five years.

Yeah.

I wrote it now because it was actually ready, but I started seeing the problem when I came back to the university.

I was gone.

I'm an old time college professor, but I was gone for a long time.

I was running a company for 11 years as a CEO.

And during that time, I wasn't paying very much attention.

I left academia in 2008.