Arthur Kroeber

But where we are is bad, and there is an information asymmetry, which I think operates the disadvantage of the United States right now.

Yeah, I basically agree with that.

I mean, I think there's, you know, we should be spending a lot more time trying to figure out how to make this a workable relationship.

There's going to be competition.

There's going to be conflict.

There are some real conflicts of what we define as core interests on either side, which are tough to resolve.

This is not easy.

But we basically both have to recognize, and this is more of a problem on the U.S.

side.

I think the Chinese recognizes the U.S.

is not going anywhere, right?

There is a little bit of a meme in Chinese foreign affairs circles.

Oh, the decline of the U.S., the rise of the East, which is very sort of officially popular.

I think most people don't really believe that because they just have too much confidence in the long run resilience of the U.S.

system.

And I think they're basically right about that.

I think we on the U.S.

side have to get a little bit more attuned to the idea that this is just like there is no end point to this.

This is a relationship which will go on forever.

There's no winning.