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Oh, no, actually more than that. So in the last week, we've had 151. Okay.

Oh, no, actually more than that. So in the last week, we've had 151. Okay.

In the last week. Yeah.

In the last week. Yeah.

I reckon at the moment we're probably getting about two or three a week, but it's gone in waves, basically. We had one day where he had like five calls booked in a day and we were like, right, let's see how we could do this so that we could do this every day. But then it's really been...

I reckon at the moment we're probably getting about two or three a week, but it's gone in waves, basically. We had one day where he had like five calls booked in a day and we were like, right, let's see how we could do this so that we could do this every day. But then it's really been...

When you say employments, you mean messages that are sent?

When you say employments, you mean messages that are sent?

Probably about a couple. Maybe not even that at the moment. He is new, but he is all over it. He's actively messaging. I believe totally in time that number's going to go up.

Probably about a couple. Maybe not even that at the moment. He is new, but he is all over it. He's actively messaging. I believe totally in time that number's going to go up.

I reckon he's probably getting about four a week at the moment.

I reckon he's probably getting about four a week at the moment.

Yeah. Yeah. It's a natural discovery calls booked. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. It's a natural discovery calls booked. Yeah.

At least... At least one, at least one. Well, I mean, it depends because, so I'm doing the actual sales call. I mean, I closed someone last week for my high ticket, but then at the same time, I also closed, well, I mean, I sold someone on an annual membership as well. So they didn't buy the high ticket, but they bought an annual membership.

At least... At least one, at least one. Well, I mean, it depends because, so I'm doing the actual sales call. I mean, I closed someone last week for my high ticket, but then at the same time, I also closed, well, I mean, I sold someone on an annual membership as well. So they didn't buy the high ticket, but they bought an annual membership.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah, yeah, absolutely. Yeah. So yeah.

Yeah, yeah, absolutely. Yeah. So yeah.

well it all there's not really so much of a set price it depends on what you feel like well no not what i feel like it's it depends on how long you want to work with me for i recommend people like work with me for a year and i charge uh around five thousand us dollars fat so so we not only we not only help them with uh we do a lot of painting so it's like a two painting classes a week and they're digging it one-on-one

well it all there's not really so much of a set price it depends on what you feel like well no not what i feel like it's it depends on how long you want to work with me for i recommend people like work with me for a year and i charge uh around five thousand us dollars fat so so we not only we not only help them with uh we do a lot of painting so it's like a two painting classes a week and they're digging it one-on-one

I reckon a good 25%. Okay.

I reckon a good 25%. Okay.

Yeah, yeah. Like, definitely, if I, or when I get more calls, when I get more calls, I'll be able to get a lot more.

Yeah, yeah. Like, definitely, if I, or when I get more calls, when I get more calls, I'll be able to get a lot more.

Yeah, sure.

Yeah, sure.

I've only been advertising the paid group in my free community and in my emails.

I've only been advertising the paid group in my free community and in my emails.

Yeah, from either email or the free community. I haven't been advertising this group publicly on YouTube. I've just been advertising a freebie. So yeah, my conversion rate for last week was 2.69%.

Yeah, from either email or the free community. I haven't been advertising this group publicly on YouTube. I've just been advertising a freebie. So yeah, my conversion rate for last week was 2.69%.

So when I'm on the call, I pitch the 5k one first.

So when I'm on the call, I pitch the 5k one first.

Yeah, you're right. I haven't been doing a lot. I do, at the end of my painting class, ask if anyone wants art mentor. That's where I pitch the art mentorship program at the end of my lives every week. I mean, now that you said that, I could be doing a lot more in my community. We'll get there. There's actually a load of those people that paid for the lifetime access that I could go and message.

Yeah, you're right. I haven't been doing a lot. I do, at the end of my painting class, ask if anyone wants art mentor. That's where I pitch the art mentorship program at the end of my lives every week. I mean, now that you said that, I could be doing a lot more in my community. We'll get there. There's actually a load of those people that paid for the lifetime access that I could go and message.

I'm still learning here, man. Dude, you're doing great, man.

I'm still learning here, man. Dude, you're doing great, man.

No, it wasn't. If you'd have asked me 10 years ago when I first quit my job and I had no idea I was going to make it work, I had no idea I'd be doing this.

No, it wasn't. If you'd have asked me 10 years ago when I first quit my job and I had no idea I was going to make it work, I had no idea I'd be doing this.

I've been working on my titles and thumbnails. I, yeah, you know, been getting help from like Harry and Kai who've been helping me in my YouTube videos.

I've been working on my titles and thumbnails. I, yeah, you know, been getting help from like Harry and Kai who've been helping me in my YouTube videos.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah, they get one-on-one with me as well. And a lot of the people in there, some of them just want to improve their painting skills and nothing else. But some of them want to actually like make, want to be able to make a career out of their painting. So we also help them with, you know, building an audience on social media.

Yeah, they get one-on-one with me as well. And a lot of the people in there, some of them just want to improve their painting skills and nothing else. But some of them want to actually like make, want to be able to make a career out of their painting. So we also help them with, you know, building an audience on social media.

Yeah, yeah, absolutely.

Yeah, yeah, absolutely.

Yeah, absolutely. So we paused at 48.

Yeah, absolutely. So we paused at 48.

Yeah, yeah. I've just found out about that.

Yeah, yeah. I've just found out about that.

Unless that was. Yeah. No, no, it's not at all. In fact, actually, my older videos had my face. I do like an intro and an outro. And then, you know, I realized I was spending like two, three minutes doing an intro, by which time everyone's clicked off. So, yeah, if you go to my earliest videos. Yeah. Back when my hair was long.

Unless that was. Yeah. No, no, it's not at all. In fact, actually, my older videos had my face. I do like an intro and an outro. And then, you know, I realized I was spending like two, three minutes doing an intro, by which time everyone's clicked off. So, yeah, if you go to my earliest videos. Yeah. Back when my hair was long.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, absolutely.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, absolutely.

So yeah, so that's my call to action in the video.

So yeah, so that's my call to action in the video.

Yeah. Yeah. What I do is usually about like halfway or three quarters through then.

Yeah. Yeah. What I do is usually about like halfway or three quarters through then.

Okay.

Okay.

Yeah, probably.

Yeah, probably.

Yeah, I've been using AI. I've been using AI to come up with titles and hooks for my videos and descriptions as well.

Yeah, I've been using AI. I've been using AI to come up with titles and hooks for my videos and descriptions as well.

Yeah. Yeah, absolutely.

Yeah. Yeah, absolutely.

And just leave it there for the rest of the video. Yeah. Okay, yeah.

And just leave it there for the rest of the video. Yeah. Okay, yeah.

So for the free? Yeah, the free landscape painting blueprint, we've got 4822 people from that.

So for the free? Yeah, the free landscape painting blueprint, we've got 4822 people from that.

Oh, as in conversion into the free community?

Oh, as in conversion into the free community?

Yeah, okay. That I'm honestly not sure of. I'm not quite sure how to find that out.

Yeah, okay. That I'm honestly not sure of. I'm not quite sure how to find that out.

I can see how many emails were opened and total clicks.

I can see how many emails were opened and total clicks.

So it's like 65% and total clicks was 44%.

So it's like 65% and total clicks was 44%.

So the free community, you're getting some painting tutorial videos and videos. So they're longer than what you would get on YouTube. So I've got a YouTube channel as well.

So the free community, you're getting some painting tutorial videos and videos. So they're longer than what you would get on YouTube. So I've got a YouTube channel as well.

Yeah, absolutely.

Yeah, absolutely.

Hey, how's it going? Thanks for having me here. Really appreciate it.

Hey, how's it going? Thanks for having me here. Really appreciate it.

They basically get a catalog of full painting tutorial videos.

They basically get a catalog of full painting tutorial videos.

You get even more full painting tutorials. Even more.

You get even more full painting tutorials. Even more.

20 like that that could have a very big so literally in the classroom i'd have like a load of those modules like totally locked yeah until they've gotten the call and then you can manually unlock each person wow i never even thought that's brilliant so as i say i'm still i'm still need all this this is you're doing great you're doing great you're

20 like that that could have a very big so literally in the classroom i'd have like a load of those modules like totally locked yeah until they've gotten the call and then you can manually unlock each person wow i never even thought that's brilliant so as i say i'm still i'm still need all this this is you're doing great you're doing great you're

But you get a live weekly painting class and the painting class, I've been running it as courses. So like eight to 10 week courses.

But you get a live weekly painting class and the painting class, I've been running it as courses. So like eight to 10 week courses.

Yeah. So this is the $29 group, this one.

Yeah. So this is the $29 group, this one.

Oh, on the free group. Okay.

Oh, on the free group. Okay.

Yeah, so it's like I'm making the courses like live on Zoom and then adding them afterwards. But you could be a complete beginner having never painted in your life to just attending one of my courses and already having a load of knowledge by the end of it and being able to make a start, like a really good start with a solid foundation in your painting journey.

Yeah, so it's like I'm making the courses like live on Zoom and then adding them afterwards. But you could be a complete beginner having never painted in your life to just attending one of my courses and already having a load of knowledge by the end of it and being able to make a start, like a really good start with a solid foundation in your painting journey.

I haven't set the number on one-on-ones. It's just been as and when people need help. So we do two painting classes a week, so it's a lot more intensive. But what I've found over the last year of doing this is there'll be periods of time where people might need a lot of help and I might have to do a few one-on-one calls with them. And then there'll be times where...

I haven't set the number on one-on-ones. It's just been as and when people need help. So we do two painting classes a week, so it's a lot more intensive. But what I've found over the last year of doing this is there'll be periods of time where people might need a lot of help and I might have to do a few one-on-one calls with them. And then there'll be times where...

you know, they won't need any help at that time. So I don't have a set number on the actual one-on-ones for me. And at this stage where I'm at, I kind of don't want to say, oh, you know, you can only have this amount of one-on-ones. I'm trying to sort of tailor that side of it to what that particular client needs, if you see what I mean.

you know, they won't need any help at that time. So I don't have a set number on the actual one-on-ones for me. And at this stage where I'm at, I kind of don't want to say, oh, you know, you can only have this amount of one-on-ones. I'm trying to sort of tailor that side of it to what that particular client needs, if you see what I mean.

And everyone's completely different, especially as I'm finding. I understand.

And everyone's completely different, especially as I'm finding. I understand.

Yeah, exactly.

Yeah, exactly.

So what we do is I've got a few ways of gathering leads. So I give away a freebie on my YouTube channel, on my website and Instagram. And then we get them into the free community. Then we get conversations going in the DM. So I've actually now got someone doing setting for me. So I was doing it myself before. And then the aim is to get them on a discovery call.

So what we do is I've got a few ways of gathering leads. So I give away a freebie on my YouTube channel, on my website and Instagram. And then we get them into the free community. Then we get conversations going in the DM. So I've actually now got someone doing setting for me. So I was doing it myself before. And then the aim is to get them on a discovery call.

And then we see if they're a good fit. If they're not a good fit or we find out they probably don't have the funds at that point in time, then we try and sell them on the art school.

And then we see if they're a good fit. If they're not a good fit or we find out they probably don't have the funds at that point in time, then we try and sell them on the art school.

Yeah, the $29, yep.

Yeah, the $29, yep.

and then if if they if they are a good fit then they'll get them on a sales call with me and then i see if they would like to join the uh yeah the art mentorship program which is the painters mastermind so the painters mastermind it's their own private school group heard yeah right now youtube is your primary source of advertising yep okay followed by my website so so youtube goes to website

and then if if they if they are a good fit then they'll get them on a sales call with me and then i see if they would like to join the uh yeah the art mentorship program which is the painters mastermind so the painters mastermind it's their own private school group heard yeah right now youtube is your primary source of advertising yep okay followed by my website so so youtube goes to website

YouTube goes to the sales landing page. So they all go to the same landing page, which we built on system.io.

YouTube goes to the sales landing page. So they all go to the same landing page, which we built on system.io.

Yeah, absolutely. So the whole community is about teaching people to paint. So a lot of them are artists, as in they paint landscapes. That's a thing that I like to do. Cool. I've been doing that on and off my whole life. But anyway... It's to help people improve their painting.

Yeah, absolutely. So the whole community is about teaching people to paint. So a lot of them are artists, as in they paint landscapes. That's a thing that I like to do. Cool. I've been doing that on and off my whole life. But anyway... It's to help people improve their painting.

Yep, that's right. And then also we get them into an email sequence. So I have a COO helping me. He's also called Sam. And yeah, so he's created like an email sequence. So I think we've got like about 100 emails. So we basically... got a load of my old emails because I always try to send out value a lot of the time. So we're able to repurpose those. How big is the list?

Yep, that's right. And then also we get them into an email sequence. So I have a COO helping me. He's also called Sam. And yeah, so he's created like an email sequence. So I think we've got like about 100 emails. So we basically... got a load of my old emails because I always try to send out value a lot of the time. So we're able to repurpose those. How big is the list?

It's well over 9,000 email subscribers at the moment.

It's well over 9,000 email subscribers at the moment.

Yeah. Yeah. Through the message in the DMs. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. Through the message in the DMs. Yeah.

Yeah, I try and do that, yeah.

Yeah, I try and do that, yeah.

I don't actually.

I don't actually.

Yeah, there's a lot of people in there that they did a one-time payment to start with. So when I started the... Yeah, when I started the school group, which was, yeah, it was in 2023, actually. At the time, I was completely broke and I moved over from Patreon and I sold a lot of like one time, you know, lifetime access. It got me back on my feet and it led me to where I am today. I love it.

Yeah, there's a lot of people in there that they did a one-time payment to start with. So when I started the... Yeah, when I started the school group, which was, yeah, it was in 2023, actually. At the time, I was completely broke and I moved over from Patreon and I sold a lot of like one time, you know, lifetime access. It got me back on my feet and it led me to where I am today. I love it.

Well, my goal is to carry on inspiring people to learn how to paint. What I'd like to be able to do with the whole, what I'm doing now, the whole community, the school groups and everything is I'd like to be able to sort of build out a team, but I would like to also pivot in the long run to helping more artists to be able to make a living online from their art.

Well, my goal is to carry on inspiring people to learn how to paint. What I'd like to be able to do with the whole, what I'm doing now, the whole community, the school groups and everything is I'd like to be able to sort of build out a team, but I would like to also pivot in the long run to helping more artists to be able to make a living online from their art.

And obviously like helping them to improve their painting is part of it. One of the things I feel like I am qualified to do is to, you know, like help people like build an audience, make like digital products from their art. Like I've sold painting tutorial videos as downloads from my website and books and stuff.

And obviously like helping them to improve their painting is part of it. One of the things I feel like I am qualified to do is to, you know, like help people like build an audience, make like digital products from their art. Like I've sold painting tutorial videos as downloads from my website and books and stuff.

And then, and also like be able to show people how they could create their own like community, their own school community where they can have a like a monthly membership.

And then, and also like be able to show people how they could create their own like community, their own school community where they can have a like a monthly membership.

So you could be a complete beginner or we've got a lot of experienced painters, but they've just hit roadblocks with their painting. And this is exactly what happened to me many years ago until I got a mentor. So the aim of the group is to just help people to improve their painting so that they can start selling and making money from their art. I've got three communities in total.

So you could be a complete beginner or we've got a lot of experienced painters, but they've just hit roadblocks with their painting. And this is exactly what happened to me many years ago until I got a mentor. So the aim of the group is to just help people to improve their painting so that they can start selling and making money from their art. I've got three communities in total.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah, yeah, at the moment, yeah, definitely.

Yeah, yeah, at the moment, yeah, definitely.

Oh, yeah. I mean, I have those goals. Like, you know, I want to get that low-ticket group. I want to get to, like, you know, 10,000 subscribers or more. You know what? This is in some ways a bit – I've been having to work a lot on my mindset in the last couple of years, and it's something that I think has really helped. You know, that's really been what's holding me back.

Oh, yeah. I mean, I have those goals. Like, you know, I want to get that low-ticket group. I want to get to, like, you know, 10,000 subscribers or more. You know what? This is in some ways a bit – I've been having to work a lot on my mindset in the last couple of years, and it's something that I think has really helped. You know, that's really been what's holding me back.

But thinking in bigger numbers for me as well, is is still uncomfortable but you know is it wrong to say you know i'd like to be pulling in 100k a month or more there's nothing wrong with wanting to make more um yeah yeah exactly so okay but for now you're doing 13 14 000 a month ish somewhere in there Between the two groups. Yeah.

But thinking in bigger numbers for me as well, is is still uncomfortable but you know is it wrong to say you know i'd like to be pulling in 100k a month or more there's nothing wrong with wanting to make more um yeah yeah exactly so okay but for now you're doing 13 14 000 a month ish somewhere in there Between the two groups. Yeah.

Yeah, I don't have solid metrics, but I spoke to my setter this morning. He reckons he's getting out of 15 people that he pitches a call to, only two are actually jumping on a call. And one of the things he says he's noticed is that the artist... kind of group is very different to say like a demographic of like, you know, entrepreneurs, you know, aspiring entrepreneurs.

Yeah, I don't have solid metrics, but I spoke to my setter this morning. He reckons he's getting out of 15 people that he pitches a call to, only two are actually jumping on a call. And one of the things he says he's noticed is that the artist... kind of group is very different to say like a demographic of like, you know, entrepreneurs, you know, aspiring entrepreneurs.

So they're probably a little bit harder to get on a, on a call with just the nature of artists in a way.

So they're probably a little bit harder to get on a, on a call with just the nature of artists in a way.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly. Yeah, yeah, exactly. Yeah. Yeah. That's true.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly. Yeah, yeah, exactly. Yeah. Yeah. That's true.

So we've got the free community. I've got a high ticket. mentorship program which is like a an art accelerator and then we've got the art school as well which is the uh the monthly low ticket group um i do a live painting class there every week and plus there's loads of uh painting tutorials got it what's the high ticket what's the price

So we've got the free community. I've got a high ticket. mentorship program which is like a an art accelerator and then we've got the art school as well which is the uh the monthly low ticket group um i do a live painting class there every week and plus there's loads of uh painting tutorials got it what's the high ticket what's the price

No, no. So it's, it's as no, so it would be way more that is, is. When the conversations got to the point of, would it be helpful to jump on a call?

No, no. So it's, it's as no, so it would be way more that is, is. When the conversations got to the point of, would it be helpful to jump on a call?

Out of the 15 people that he gets to be able to say that in the chat, only around two people are actually jumping on a call, basically.

Out of the 15 people that he gets to be able to say that in the chat, only around two people are actually jumping on a call, basically.

Yeah, yeah, absolutely. I reckon we must be getting about at least 60 a week. Okay. Yeah. Let me just check my metrics again.

Yeah, yeah, absolutely. I reckon we must be getting about at least 60 a week. Okay. Yeah. Let me just check my metrics again.

Oh, no, actually more than that. So in the last week, we've had 151. Okay.

In the last week. Yeah.

I reckon at the moment we're probably getting about two or three a week, but it's gone in waves, basically. We had one day where he had like five calls booked in a day and we were like, right, let's see how we could do this so that we could do this every day. But then it's really been...

When you say employments, you mean messages that are sent?

Probably about a couple. Maybe not even that at the moment. He is new, but he is all over it. He's actively messaging. I believe totally in time that number's going to go up.

I reckon he's probably getting about four a week at the moment.

Yeah. Yeah. It's a natural discovery calls booked. Yeah.

At least... At least one, at least one. Well, I mean, it depends because, so I'm doing the actual sales call. I mean, I closed someone last week for my high ticket, but then at the same time, I also closed, well, I mean, I sold someone on an annual membership as well. So they didn't buy the high ticket, but they bought an annual membership.

Yeah.

Yeah, yeah, absolutely. Yeah. So yeah.

well it all there's not really so much of a set price it depends on what you feel like well no not what i feel like it's it depends on how long you want to work with me for i recommend people like work with me for a year and i charge uh around five thousand us dollars fat so so we not only we not only help them with uh we do a lot of painting so it's like a two painting classes a week and they're digging it one-on-one

I reckon a good 25%. Okay.

Yeah, yeah. Like, definitely, if I, or when I get more calls, when I get more calls, I'll be able to get a lot more.

Yeah, sure.

I've only been advertising the paid group in my free community and in my emails.

Yeah, from either email or the free community. I haven't been advertising this group publicly on YouTube. I've just been advertising a freebie. So yeah, my conversion rate for last week was 2.69%.

So when I'm on the call, I pitch the 5k one first.

Yeah, you're right. I haven't been doing a lot. I do, at the end of my painting class, ask if anyone wants art mentor. That's where I pitch the art mentorship program at the end of my lives every week. I mean, now that you said that, I could be doing a lot more in my community. We'll get there. There's actually a load of those people that paid for the lifetime access that I could go and message.

I'm still learning here, man. Dude, you're doing great, man.

No, it wasn't. If you'd have asked me 10 years ago when I first quit my job and I had no idea I was going to make it work, I had no idea I'd be doing this.

I've been working on my titles and thumbnails. I, yeah, you know, been getting help from like Harry and Kai who've been helping me in my YouTube videos.

Yeah.

Yeah, they get one-on-one with me as well. And a lot of the people in there, some of them just want to improve their painting skills and nothing else. But some of them want to actually like make, want to be able to make a career out of their painting. So we also help them with, you know, building an audience on social media.

Yeah, yeah, absolutely.

Yeah, absolutely. So we paused at 48.

Yeah, yeah. I've just found out about that.

Unless that was. Yeah. No, no, it's not at all. In fact, actually, my older videos had my face. I do like an intro and an outro. And then, you know, I realized I was spending like two, three minutes doing an intro, by which time everyone's clicked off. So, yeah, if you go to my earliest videos. Yeah. Back when my hair was long.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, absolutely.

So yeah, so that's my call to action in the video.

Yeah. Yeah. What I do is usually about like halfway or three quarters through then.

Okay.

Yeah, probably.

Yeah, I've been using AI. I've been using AI to come up with titles and hooks for my videos and descriptions as well.

Yeah. Yeah, absolutely.

And just leave it there for the rest of the video. Yeah. Okay, yeah.

So for the free? Yeah, the free landscape painting blueprint, we've got 4822 people from that.

Oh, as in conversion into the free community?

Yeah, okay. That I'm honestly not sure of. I'm not quite sure how to find that out.

I can see how many emails were opened and total clicks.

So it's like 65% and total clicks was 44%.

So the free community, you're getting some painting tutorial videos and videos. So they're longer than what you would get on YouTube. So I've got a YouTube channel as well.

Yeah, absolutely.

Hey, how's it going? Thanks for having me here. Really appreciate it.

They basically get a catalog of full painting tutorial videos.

You get even more full painting tutorials. Even more.

20 like that that could have a very big so literally in the classroom i'd have like a load of those modules like totally locked yeah until they've gotten the call and then you can manually unlock each person wow i never even thought that's brilliant so as i say i'm still i'm still need all this this is you're doing great you're doing great you're

But you get a live weekly painting class and the painting class, I've been running it as courses. So like eight to 10 week courses.

Yeah. So this is the $29 group, this one.

Oh, on the free group. Okay.

Yeah, so it's like I'm making the courses like live on Zoom and then adding them afterwards. But you could be a complete beginner having never painted in your life to just attending one of my courses and already having a load of knowledge by the end of it and being able to make a start, like a really good start with a solid foundation in your painting journey.

I haven't set the number on one-on-ones. It's just been as and when people need help. So we do two painting classes a week, so it's a lot more intensive. But what I've found over the last year of doing this is there'll be periods of time where people might need a lot of help and I might have to do a few one-on-one calls with them. And then there'll be times where...

you know, they won't need any help at that time. So I don't have a set number on the actual one-on-ones for me. And at this stage where I'm at, I kind of don't want to say, oh, you know, you can only have this amount of one-on-ones. I'm trying to sort of tailor that side of it to what that particular client needs, if you see what I mean.

And everyone's completely different, especially as I'm finding. I understand.

Yeah, exactly.

So what we do is I've got a few ways of gathering leads. So I give away a freebie on my YouTube channel, on my website and Instagram. And then we get them into the free community. Then we get conversations going in the DM. So I've actually now got someone doing setting for me. So I was doing it myself before. And then the aim is to get them on a discovery call.

And then we see if they're a good fit. If they're not a good fit or we find out they probably don't have the funds at that point in time, then we try and sell them on the art school.

Yeah, the $29, yep.

and then if if they if they are a good fit then they'll get them on a sales call with me and then i see if they would like to join the uh yeah the art mentorship program which is the painters mastermind so the painters mastermind it's their own private school group heard yeah right now youtube is your primary source of advertising yep okay followed by my website so so youtube goes to website

YouTube goes to the sales landing page. So they all go to the same landing page, which we built on system.io.

Yeah, absolutely. So the whole community is about teaching people to paint. So a lot of them are artists, as in they paint landscapes. That's a thing that I like to do. Cool. I've been doing that on and off my whole life. But anyway... It's to help people improve their painting.

Yep, that's right. And then also we get them into an email sequence. So I have a COO helping me. He's also called Sam. And yeah, so he's created like an email sequence. So I think we've got like about 100 emails. So we basically... got a load of my old emails because I always try to send out value a lot of the time. So we're able to repurpose those. How big is the list?

It's well over 9,000 email subscribers at the moment.

Yeah. Yeah. Through the message in the DMs. Yeah.

Yeah, I try and do that, yeah.

I don't actually.

Yeah, there's a lot of people in there that they did a one-time payment to start with. So when I started the... Yeah, when I started the school group, which was, yeah, it was in 2023, actually. At the time, I was completely broke and I moved over from Patreon and I sold a lot of like one time, you know, lifetime access. It got me back on my feet and it led me to where I am today. I love it.

Well, my goal is to carry on inspiring people to learn how to paint. What I'd like to be able to do with the whole, what I'm doing now, the whole community, the school groups and everything is I'd like to be able to sort of build out a team, but I would like to also pivot in the long run to helping more artists to be able to make a living online from their art.

And obviously like helping them to improve their painting is part of it. One of the things I feel like I am qualified to do is to, you know, like help people like build an audience, make like digital products from their art. Like I've sold painting tutorial videos as downloads from my website and books and stuff.

And then, and also like be able to show people how they could create their own like community, their own school community where they can have a like a monthly membership.

So you could be a complete beginner or we've got a lot of experienced painters, but they've just hit roadblocks with their painting. And this is exactly what happened to me many years ago until I got a mentor. So the aim of the group is to just help people to improve their painting so that they can start selling and making money from their art. I've got three communities in total.

Yeah.

Yeah, yeah, at the moment, yeah, definitely.

Oh, yeah. I mean, I have those goals. Like, you know, I want to get that low-ticket group. I want to get to, like, you know, 10,000 subscribers or more. You know what? This is in some ways a bit – I've been having to work a lot on my mindset in the last couple of years, and it's something that I think has really helped. You know, that's really been what's holding me back.

But thinking in bigger numbers for me as well, is is still uncomfortable but you know is it wrong to say you know i'd like to be pulling in 100k a month or more there's nothing wrong with wanting to make more um yeah yeah exactly so okay but for now you're doing 13 14 000 a month ish somewhere in there Between the two groups. Yeah.

Yeah, I don't have solid metrics, but I spoke to my setter this morning. He reckons he's getting out of 15 people that he pitches a call to, only two are actually jumping on a call. And one of the things he says he's noticed is that the artist... kind of group is very different to say like a demographic of like, you know, entrepreneurs, you know, aspiring entrepreneurs.

So they're probably a little bit harder to get on a, on a call with just the nature of artists in a way.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly. Yeah, yeah, exactly. Yeah. Yeah. That's true.

So we've got the free community. I've got a high ticket. mentorship program which is like a an art accelerator and then we've got the art school as well which is the uh the monthly low ticket group um i do a live painting class there every week and plus there's loads of uh painting tutorials got it what's the high ticket what's the price

No, no. So it's, it's as no, so it would be way more that is, is. When the conversations got to the point of, would it be helpful to jump on a call?

Out of the 15 people that he gets to be able to say that in the chat, only around two people are actually jumping on a call, basically.

Yeah, yeah, absolutely. I reckon we must be getting about at least 60 a week. Okay. Yeah. Let me just check my metrics again.