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Arvind Narayanan

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The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: AI Scaling Myths: More Compute is not the Answer | The Core Bottlenecks in AI Today: Data, Algorithms and Compute | The Future of Models: Open vs Closed, Small vs Large with Arvind Narayanan, Professor of Computer Science @ Princeton

So when we were talking about deepfakes, I'm much less worried about misinformation deepfakes and more worried about deepfake nudes that I was talking about, right? So those are things that can destroy a person's life. It's been shocking to me how little attention this got from the press and from policymakers until it happened to Taylor Swift. a few months ago. And then it got a lot of attention.

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: AI Scaling Myths: More Compute is not the Answer | The Core Bottlenecks in AI Today: Data, Algorithms and Compute | The Future of Models: Open vs Closed, Small vs Large with Arvind Narayanan, Professor of Computer Science @ Princeton

So there were deep fake nudes of Taylor Swift posted on Twitter slash x. And after that, you know, policymakers started paying attention. But it has been happening for many years now, even before the latest wave of generative AI tools. So that's the type of misuse that is very clear.

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: AI Scaling Myths: More Compute is not the Answer | The Core Bottlenecks in AI Today: Data, Algorithms and Compute | The Future of Models: Open vs Closed, Small vs Large with Arvind Narayanan, Professor of Computer Science @ Princeton

So there were deep fake nudes of Taylor Swift posted on Twitter slash x. And after that, you know, policymakers started paying attention. But it has been happening for many years now, even before the latest wave of generative AI tools. So that's the type of misuse that is very clear.

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: AI Scaling Myths: More Compute is not the Answer | The Core Bottlenecks in AI Today: Data, Algorithms and Compute | The Future of Models: Open vs Closed, Small vs Large with Arvind Narayanan, Professor of Computer Science @ Princeton

So there were deep fake nudes of Taylor Swift posted on Twitter slash x. And after that, you know, policymakers started paying attention. But it has been happening for many years now, even before the latest wave of generative AI tools. So that's the type of misuse that is very clear.

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: AI Scaling Myths: More Compute is not the Answer | The Core Bottlenecks in AI Today: Data, Algorithms and Compute | The Future of Models: Open vs Closed, Small vs Large with Arvind Narayanan, Professor of Computer Science @ Princeton

And then there are other kinds of misuses that are not necessarily dangerous in the same way, but impose a lot of costs on society.

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: AI Scaling Myths: More Compute is not the Answer | The Core Bottlenecks in AI Today: Data, Algorithms and Compute | The Future of Models: Open vs Closed, Small vs Large with Arvind Narayanan, Professor of Computer Science @ Princeton

And then there are other kinds of misuses that are not necessarily dangerous in the same way, but impose a lot of costs on society.

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: AI Scaling Myths: More Compute is not the Answer | The Core Bottlenecks in AI Today: Data, Algorithms and Compute | The Future of Models: Open vs Closed, Small vs Large with Arvind Narayanan, Professor of Computer Science @ Princeton

And then there are other kinds of misuses that are not necessarily dangerous in the same way, but impose a lot of costs on society.

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: AI Scaling Myths: More Compute is not the Answer | The Core Bottlenecks in AI Today: Data, Algorithms and Compute | The Future of Models: Open vs Closed, Small vs Large with Arvind Narayanan, Professor of Computer Science @ Princeton

So when students are using AI to do their homework, for instance, now high school teachers and college teachers everywhere have to revamp how they're teaching in order to account for the fact that students are doing this and there is no way really to catch AI generated text or homework answers. And so these are costs upon society. I'm not saying that the availability of AI makes education worse.

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: AI Scaling Myths: More Compute is not the Answer | The Core Bottlenecks in AI Today: Data, Algorithms and Compute | The Future of Models: Open vs Closed, Small vs Large with Arvind Narayanan, Professor of Computer Science @ Princeton

So when students are using AI to do their homework, for instance, now high school teachers and college teachers everywhere have to revamp how they're teaching in order to account for the fact that students are doing this and there is no way really to catch AI generated text or homework answers. And so these are costs upon society. I'm not saying that the availability of AI makes education worse.

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: AI Scaling Myths: More Compute is not the Answer | The Core Bottlenecks in AI Today: Data, Algorithms and Compute | The Future of Models: Open vs Closed, Small vs Large with Arvind Narayanan, Professor of Computer Science @ Princeton

So when students are using AI to do their homework, for instance, now high school teachers and college teachers everywhere have to revamp how they're teaching in order to account for the fact that students are doing this and there is no way really to catch AI generated text or homework answers. And so these are costs upon society. I'm not saying that the availability of AI makes education worse.

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: AI Scaling Myths: More Compute is not the Answer | The Core Bottlenecks in AI Today: Data, Algorithms and Compute | The Future of Models: Open vs Closed, Small vs Large with Arvind Narayanan, Professor of Computer Science @ Princeton

I don't think that's necessarily the case. But it forces a lot of costs upon the education system. And ideally, AI companies should be bearing some of that cost.

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: AI Scaling Myths: More Compute is not the Answer | The Core Bottlenecks in AI Today: Data, Algorithms and Compute | The Future of Models: Open vs Closed, Small vs Large with Arvind Narayanan, Professor of Computer Science @ Princeton

I don't think that's necessarily the case. But it forces a lot of costs upon the education system. And ideally, AI companies should be bearing some of that cost.

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: AI Scaling Myths: More Compute is not the Answer | The Core Bottlenecks in AI Today: Data, Algorithms and Compute | The Future of Models: Open vs Closed, Small vs Large with Arvind Narayanan, Professor of Computer Science @ Princeton

I don't think that's necessarily the case. But it forces a lot of costs upon the education system. And ideally, AI companies should be bearing some of that cost.

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: AI Scaling Myths: More Compute is not the Answer | The Core Bottlenecks in AI Today: Data, Algorithms and Compute | The Future of Models: Open vs Closed, Small vs Large with Arvind Narayanan, Professor of Computer Science @ Princeton

Sure. So I don't think you're wrong. I think the reason there is a lot of talk about this is it goes back to something we've observed over and over, which is that when there are problems with an institution like the medical system, Right. Like the wait times are too long or it's too costly or in a lot of countries, you know, people don't even have access.

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: AI Scaling Myths: More Compute is not the Answer | The Core Bottlenecks in AI Today: Data, Algorithms and Compute | The Future of Models: Open vs Closed, Small vs Large with Arvind Narayanan, Professor of Computer Science @ Princeton

Sure. So I don't think you're wrong. I think the reason there is a lot of talk about this is it goes back to something we've observed over and over, which is that when there are problems with an institution like the medical system, Right. Like the wait times are too long or it's too costly or in a lot of countries, you know, people don't even have access.

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: AI Scaling Myths: More Compute is not the Answer | The Core Bottlenecks in AI Today: Data, Algorithms and Compute | The Future of Models: Open vs Closed, Small vs Large with Arvind Narayanan, Professor of Computer Science @ Princeton

Sure. So I don't think you're wrong. I think the reason there is a lot of talk about this is it goes back to something we've observed over and over, which is that when there are problems with an institution like the medical system, Right. Like the wait times are too long or it's too costly or in a lot of countries, you know, people don't even have access.

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: AI Scaling Myths: More Compute is not the Answer | The Core Bottlenecks in AI Today: Data, Algorithms and Compute | The Future of Models: Open vs Closed, Small vs Large with Arvind Narayanan, Professor of Computer Science @ Princeton

You know, in developing countries, there might be entire villages with no physician. Then this kind of technological bandaid becomes very appealing. So I think that's what's going on here. I think the responsible way to use in medicine is for it to be integrated into the medical system. And actually, the medical system has been a very enthusiastic adopter of technology, including AI.

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: AI Scaling Myths: More Compute is not the Answer | The Core Bottlenecks in AI Today: Data, Algorithms and Compute | The Future of Models: Open vs Closed, Small vs Large with Arvind Narayanan, Professor of Computer Science @ Princeton

You know, in developing countries, there might be entire villages with no physician. Then this kind of technological bandaid becomes very appealing. So I think that's what's going on here. I think the responsible way to use in medicine is for it to be integrated into the medical system. And actually, the medical system has been a very enthusiastic adopter of technology, including AI.

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: AI Scaling Myths: More Compute is not the Answer | The Core Bottlenecks in AI Today: Data, Algorithms and Compute | The Future of Models: Open vs Closed, Small vs Large with Arvind Narayanan, Professor of Computer Science @ Princeton

You know, in developing countries, there might be entire villages with no physician. Then this kind of technological bandaid becomes very appealing. So I think that's what's going on here. I think the responsible way to use in medicine is for it to be integrated into the medical system. And actually, the medical system has been a very enthusiastic adopter of technology, including AI.

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: AI Scaling Myths: More Compute is not the Answer | The Core Bottlenecks in AI Today: Data, Algorithms and Compute | The Future of Models: Open vs Closed, Small vs Large with Arvind Narayanan, Professor of Computer Science @ Princeton

So you can consider CAT scans, for instance, to be a form of AI to be able to reconstruct what's going on inside a person based on certain imaging. And now with generative AI as well, there's a lot of interest from the medical system in figuring out, can this be useful for diagnosis or for more mundane things like summarizing medical notes and so forth. So I think that work is really important.