Ash Kelley
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Appearances Over Time
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That honestly would be the thing that would send chills down my spine.
Like, they believe that they're invisible.
Not just invincible, invisible.
So they had to have felt pretty confident with the sacrifice they had made.
Benitez said later, they weren't worried at all.
They thought we couldn't hurt them.
They thought they were protected.
Now, although they were pretty profoundly irritated by the confidence, they also knew that they'd eventually got a confession one way or the other.
We've told stories before there's been cases where officers resort to violence to get answers.
And that was especially common in this area in the 1980s.
There were the more common tactics, like we've talked about beatings, threats, but there were also more extreme tactics.
And Dave found one that I said, excuse me, what?